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In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

    The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

    I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

    The second will follow later.

    #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

    kaidenshi@exquisite.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    @stefano "...and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers"

    This makes absolutely no sense and makes me wonder if you're being trolled. No one could be this ignorant of how computers and operating systems and containers actually work, while maintaining employment in the field.

    I hate car-computer analogies, but it's the equivalent of saying "so what if I lock up the engine, the trunk still holds my stuff". Sorry mate, you're still going nowhere if you break the engine.

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    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

      In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

      The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

      I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

      The second will follow later.

      #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

      peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafeP This user is from outside of this forum
      peteorrall@mastodon.bsd.cafeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #7

      @stefano I am of the opinion that a few years spent in IT Operations is a darn good prerequisite for other roles in IT.

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      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

        The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

        I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

        The second will follow later.

        #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

        linkshaender@bildung.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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        #8

        @stefano

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

          The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

          I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

          The second will follow later.

          #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

          matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
          matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
          matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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          #9

          @stefano you need analogies …

          That’s installing a GUI on a router so you can debug a web app.

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          • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @stefano you need analogies …

            That’s installing a GUI on a router so you can debug a web app.

            matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #10

            @stefano That’s like reprogramming the airport’s radar system so one passenger, a dev of radar apps, can test a new phone radar app.

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            • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @stefano That’s like reprogramming the airport’s radar system so one passenger, a dev of radar apps, can test a new phone radar app.

              matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #11

              @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

              matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM linkshaender@bildung.socialL 2 Replies Last reply
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              • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

                matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @stefano Containers are the train cars; the host is the locomotive. If you keep bolting random test equipment onto the locomotive and it fails, all the cars stop, because none of them move without the engine.

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                  The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                  I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                  The second will follow later.

                  #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                  angel@triptico.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  🤦 I wonder if this developer understands anything
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                  • matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafeM matuzalem@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                    @stefano Containers are musicians; the host is the conductor and the sheet music stand. You can hand one musician a weird experimental instrument, but if you start swapping out the conductor’s brain mid-performance and it crashes, the whole orchestra stops.

                    linkshaender@bildung.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #14

                    @matuzalem @stefano I like that analogy!

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                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                      The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                      I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                      The second will follow later.

                      #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                      adnan@ap.aelaraji.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @stefano@bsd.cafe Was that his idea, or was it from some SlopGPT agent?
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                      • angel@triptico.comA angel@triptico.com
                        🤦 I wonder if this developer understands anything
                        chebra@mstdn.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @angel It's probably one of those IT guys who has already been replaced by AI. Or at least his brain was.

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                          The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                          I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                          The second will follow later.

                          #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                          teapot_ben@glammr.usT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @stefano 🤯

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                            The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                            I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                            The second will follow later.

                            #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                            labellaragassa@exquisite.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @stefano oh dear, and it is only Monday!

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                            • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @stefano Dear lord, most people in this industry have no fracking clue anymore.

                              radio_azureus@ioc.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #19

                              @nuintari @stefano

                              Many of them often think that when they came from computer science school, they know all the important things of The Craft

                              In reality they won't even be able to start up a server park

                              🦋💙❤️💋#WordsOfWisdom 💙💕🌹💐💙🦋

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                              • adnan@ap.aelaraji.comA adnan@ap.aelaraji.com
                                @stefano@bsd.cafe Was that his idea, or was it from some SlopGPT agent?
                                stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @adnan his, unfortunately...

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                                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                                  The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                                  I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                                  The second will follow later.

                                  #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                                  joany@mastodon.bsd.cafeJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #21

                                  @stefano Thank you for the smile

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                                  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    In the past half hour, two things happened that made me raise an eyebrow.

                                    The first: a developer, who uses Docker on both a dev and a prod server, asked me to install a huge number of dependencies (on the host) to test a workload. When I hesitated and suggested using a container instead, he replied that this way he "keeps the containers clean, since they’re what run in production, and if the host gets dirty it doesn’t matter, it only has to run the containers".

                                    I tried to explain, but... no, we're not getting anywhere. My brain is short circuiting.

                                    The second will follow later.

                                    #ShortCircuit #ReverseContainers

                                    michel@mastodon.bsd.cafeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #22

                                    @stefano *chef's kiss*

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