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Starting to properly look into an alternative to #Dropbox or #OneDrive.

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  • pmarheine@digipres.clubP pmarheine@digipres.club

    @timixretroplays how much admin are you willing to do and does the company's location matter, or just data location?

    You could spin up Nextcloud on a DigitalOcean VM with Spaces object storage (or other hosts probably) in an Australian datacenter for less than US$20 per month, which seems like a decent option depending on what exactly you want.

    If you're looking to move a lot of data then the egress fees for Spaces could be an issue (1¢/GB after the first TB).

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    @pmarheine mostly data location - I'm not terribly worried about patriation, it's more that I want something closer because it'll be faster and less reliant on international links.

    DigitalOcean raises some hackles for me as they've been the hosting source of some malicious nonsense I've dealt with in the past, but that gives me some things to consider.

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    • moftasa@mastodon.onlineM moftasa@mastodon.online

      @timixretroplays would #Syncthing be an option for you?

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      @moftasa that would probably work, it's been recommended to me before, but I'm specifically hoping to find an Australian based host I can sync to so it's backed up offsite but not too far away.

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      • pmarheine@digipres.clubP pmarheine@digipres.club

        @Netux @timixretroplays that doesn't seem to be true (for geography): https://mega.io/server-locations says they mostly store things in Europe, and https://mega.io/about says the head office is in Hungary. The .NZ seems more like a marketing ploy than anything else.

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        @pmarheine @Netux can't say I can shake the impression of mega being used to share pirated stuff (literally what came to mind when I saw the suggestion) so especially if they don't actually host in AU/NZ it's not a serious option for me.

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        • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

          Starting to properly look into an alternative to #Dropbox or #OneDrive. I'm currently paying AU$109/year ($9/month) for my home Office subscription which includes a terabyte of OD space. Dropbox is $184/year ($15/mo) for 2TB of space. I currently have about 100GB of data to house.

          Looks like it costs about AU$80/month to put 100GB of data on a webhost in Australia.

          Can anyone suggest somewhere priced in between that'd let me use NextCloud or similar? Boosts and suggestions welcome. #AskFedi

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          @timixretroplays IceDrive is based in Gibraltar and had dependable syncing when I tested it a couple years ago. Not sure how the pricing is in AU$.

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          • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

            Looks like I'd be spoiled for choice if I was just looking to get away from US-based companies and would settle my data in Europe, but ideally it'd be as local as possible (setting up a microPC under a desk at my girlfriend's place may be the option I go with but a commercial operation with a financial plan - which is roughly the same longevity-inducing logic I use to choose Mastodon servers - would be preferable).

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            @timixretroplays me and my wife uses Filen, which is a German company, to stay in the EU. I think the price is OK from my own research, but since I live in the EU I didn't look elsewhere.

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            Filen – Next Generation End-To-End Encrypted Cloud Storage. Get started with 10 GiB of free space.

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            • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

              Starting to properly look into an alternative to #Dropbox or #OneDrive. I'm currently paying AU$109/year ($9/month) for my home Office subscription which includes a terabyte of OD space. Dropbox is $184/year ($15/mo) for 2TB of space. I currently have about 100GB of data to house.

              Looks like it costs about AU$80/month to put 100GB of data on a webhost in Australia.

              Can anyone suggest somewhere priced in between that'd let me use NextCloud or similar? Boosts and suggestions welcome. #AskFedi

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              @timixretroplays +1 for @nextcloud . I replaced Dropbox and all office tools (documents, calendar, contacts, calls). I'm hosting at home, but you can easily use VPS. Setting it up and managing via @yunohost is flawless!

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              • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

                @pmarheine mostly data location - I'm not terribly worried about patriation, it's more that I want something closer because it'll be faster and less reliant on international links.

                DigitalOcean raises some hackles for me as they've been the hosting source of some malicious nonsense I've dealt with in the past, but that gives me some things to consider.

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                @timixretroplays I know Vultr have very similar offerings and Aus presence, which may be palatable. But I suspect any general purpose host in that price range may have similar baggage to what DO have.

                Oracle cloud is another option with generous free quota that would probably satisfy all of your needs, but Oracle is its own kind of ick.

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                • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

                  Looks like I'd be spoiled for choice if I was just looking to get away from US-based companies and would settle my data in Europe, but ideally it'd be as local as possible (setting up a microPC under a desk at my girlfriend's place may be the option I go with but a commercial operation with a financial plan - which is roughly the same longevity-inducing logic I use to choose Mastodon servers - would be preferable).

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                  So the best I've spotted so far is Contabo, who will give me a Nextcloud-preconfigured VPS with 150gb of space for about AU$7.50/month, and they have a presence in Sydney: https://contabo.com/en-us/nextcloud-hosting/

                  I've literally never heard of these guys before, and all the cheap VPS places going all in on AI stuff gives me a bit of the ick, but otherwise that's actually a really attractive option so far.

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                  • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

                    So the best I've spotted so far is Contabo, who will give me a Nextcloud-preconfigured VPS with 150gb of space for about AU$7.50/month, and they have a presence in Sydney: https://contabo.com/en-us/nextcloud-hosting/

                    I've literally never heard of these guys before, and all the cheap VPS places going all in on AI stuff gives me a bit of the ick, but otherwise that's actually a really attractive option so far.

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                    I'm reading that Contabo have some performance and reliability issues, with people running websites and other apps complaining of downtime and slowness because of resource contention, because VPSes are oversold by definition.

                    But honestly? A few bucks a month to have another, automatically synchronised copy of my data a few hundred km away that's mostly available sounds fine to me, especially when I can still run a dedicated local client in addition to my own PC and laptop.

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                    • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

                      Starting to properly look into an alternative to #Dropbox or #OneDrive. I'm currently paying AU$109/year ($9/month) for my home Office subscription which includes a terabyte of OD space. Dropbox is $184/year ($15/mo) for 2TB of space. I currently have about 100GB of data to house.

                      Looks like it costs about AU$80/month to put 100GB of data on a webhost in Australia.

                      Can anyone suggest somewhere priced in between that'd let me use NextCloud or similar? Boosts and suggestions welcome. #AskFedi

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                      @timixretroplays Might this be an option? Hetzner managed NextCloud server ; you can get 1TB for max 4.29 € (7 AUD) a month. Servers in Germany

                      https://www.hetzner.com/storage/storage-share/

                      EDIT: oops, More replies loaded after I posted this and I see you’ve been recommended this already and that you prefer something closer to home, sorry!

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                      • timixretroplays@digipres.clubT timixretroplays@digipres.club

                        I'm reading that Contabo have some performance and reliability issues, with people running websites and other apps complaining of downtime and slowness because of resource contention, because VPSes are oversold by definition.

                        But honestly? A few bucks a month to have another, automatically synchronised copy of my data a few hundred km away that's mostly available sounds fine to me, especially when I can still run a dedicated local client in addition to my own PC and laptop.

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                        @timixretroplays I'm currently leaning towards carrying a raidz2 copy of my home backup in my backpack, as that would technically count as offsite. Seems slightly safer compared to VPS provider error/hw failure, and I/O will never suck.

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