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  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

    Devuan it is then.

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    @mhoye s6 and openrc still holding strong against the tide of bullshit, right? @ska @navi

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    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

      What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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      @mhoye https://redox-os.org

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      • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

        What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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        @mhoye I think one or two of the BSDs are about it at this point. I'd say Alpine or Chimera, but they use the linux kernel and the linux kernel is now accepting slop.

        Maybe Haiku or ... the rust OS the name of which I can never remember?

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        • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

          @mhoye s6 and openrc still holding strong against the tide of bullshit, right? @ska @navi

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          @c0dec0dec0de @mhoye

          yes, both @ska and i have personal policies for not accepting llm contributions (i will get around to adding a contributing.md to openrc stating that, soon™...)
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          • navi@social.vlhl.devN navi@social.vlhl.dev
            @c0dec0dec0de @mhoye

            yes, both @ska and i have personal policies for not accepting llm contributions (i will get around to adding a contributing.md to openrc stating that, soon™...)
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            @navi @mhoye @ska thank you

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            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

              What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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              @mhoye How are the various BSDs doing these days?

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              • owen@mastodon.transneptune.netO owen@mastodon.transneptune.net

                @mhoye How are the various BSDs doing these days?

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                @owen It's time to find out, looks like.

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                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                  Devuan it is then.

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                  @mhoye or #guix, with #shepherd, a guile scheme based init system

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                  • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                    Devuan it is then.

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                    @mhoye FUCKing FUCK

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                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                      What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                      @mhoye time to dig out those old cp/m disks

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                      • owen@mastodon.transneptune.netO owen@mastodon.transneptune.net

                        @mhoye How are the various BSDs doing these days?

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                        @owen @mhoye the three main BSD projects have all rejected LLM for code

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                        • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                          What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                          @mhoye plan9

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                            @mhoye plan9

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                            @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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                            • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                              Devuan it is then.

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                              @mhoye Finally, all those antisystemd haters from Phoronix can now say "TOLD YA"

                              I've been drivin' Void on laptops for a while now and considering migrating my main Debian PC to it (and upgrading from ext4 to zfs too)

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                              • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                What options do I have, if I want an operating system and software that won't take a dependency on nondeterministic, proprietary generators?

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                                @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                                • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                  Devuan it is then.

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                                  @mhoye not surprising from a microslop developer

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                                  • navi@social.vlhl.devN navi@social.vlhl.dev
                                    @c0dec0dec0de @mhoye

                                    yes, both @ska and i have personal policies for not accepting llm contributions (i will get around to adding a contributing.md to openrc stating that, soon™...)
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                                    @navi @mhoye @c0dec0dec0de absolutely, and I think I will shamelessly plagiarize the Redox OS Contributing document for my own software.

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                                    • mhoye@cosocial.caM mhoye@cosocial.ca

                                      @phred I don't think GolangOS runs on my ARM64 hardware, unfortunately.

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                                      @mhoye yeah, looks like someone started an arm64 toolchain for plan9 and then moved on. My answer was tongue in cheek as, well, one would need to be *very excited* to develop their own software to get some kind of modern experience on plan9, which I’m sure some diehards will say is “the whole point”

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                                      • gabrielesvelto@mas.toG gabrielesvelto@mas.to

                                        @mhoye Gentoo or Alpine with OpenRC. It's possible to use it with Arch too, but you're on your own

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                                        @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                                        * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                                        * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                                        EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                                        Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                                        • skyfaller@jawns.clubS skyfaller@jawns.club

                                          @gabrielesvelto @mhoye Postmarket OS and Gentoo have decent policies against slop:

                                          * https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/development/ai-policy.html
                                          * https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Council/AI_policy

                                          EDIT: Here is a statement from OpenRC that they will not accept slop: https://social.vlhl.dev/notice/B411aV3FER9OzhAx3Q

                                          Haven't seen a statement from Alpine yet.

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                                          @skyfaller @mhoye OpenRC is maintained by the Gentoo team and it's the default init system in Alpine

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