vim: slopneovim: slophelix: turbosloplite-xl: “join our discord”howl: gtkkakoune: sloplapce: corpowareare you FUCKING kidding meguess that leaves vis and emacs for non-KDE editors

[lumi@snug.moe]

@mia what makes helix more slop than vim/nvim?

we are trying to push for a genai ban on helix: github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/15408

if it does not succeed. i am forking helix

[rose@snac.pinkro.se]

honestly i wouldnt even consider Kate a KDE editor, it works great on niri, and they have windows builds as well so its pretty cross platform

[solonovamax@tech.lgbt]

@mia non-slop (made by a really cool dragon): https://codeberg.org/pastthepixels/spikedit

[lottie@social.vlhl.dev]

@rose @mia this goes for like all KDE tools that's the cool thing about KDE. I use okular and ark and dolphin on sway sometimes

[lottie@social.vlhl.dev]

@rose @mia oh also gwenview, i use gwenview so much it didn't even register to me

[thing@thegayagenda.fans]

@lumi@snug.moe @mia@shrimptest.0x0.st well, because i can't (practically) make a gh account, i can't join this discussion.
i am currently not using helix until this is resolved. i'm just hoping.

[mia@shrimptest.0x0.st]

@lumi tbh i just assigned it bonus points for corpo-friendly licensing and a very soft stance on it that sees LLM slop mostly as an annoyance to devs

[rose@snac.pinkro.se]

dolphin for me was often meh, lots of styling issues, nowadays i just use thunar
but yeah, kde software is great for this

CC: @mia@shrimptest.0x0.st

[tiredbun@akko.wtf]

@mia @k4t3

There is Gram, a fork of zed, but it's not LLM-free, I think they plan rewriting LLM-made parts (don't remember their repo or site saying that, but slopware lists and Starlight Network No-AI list imply that), but for now they mostly removed LLM features and alike.

[sampler@freebeerextremist.com]

@mia
Emacs has always and will always be correct because it was not constructed by man but revealed by heaven.

[srazkvt@tech.lgbt]

@mia honestly kakoune is very disappointing here, the editor specifically built to not be a monolith and to compose with the system accepts changes made with something that opposes everything kakoune is about

last i checked, it's only one commit, but urgh

[lili@donotsta.re]

@mia as for vim: https://sr.ht/~sircmpwn/vim-classic/