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I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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  • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

    @Gina maybe actually *do* something on that desktop also. As in deploy. Use. Migrate to. Commit to. Not seeing anything like that here. Tiny trials.

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    @bert_hubert fully agree. Btw are you going to the ibestuur conference? It might be nice to see what's been happening in the realm of MijnBureau and DAWO.

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    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

      I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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      @Gina I will be writing up some experiences with Ubuntu Touch (mainly, about installing it, and some initial impressions) in a couple of days, I expect.

      I don't think it is going to replace GrapheneOS for me, for daily use, right now, though.

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      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

        I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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        RE: https://mastodon.design/@modal/116137223286018094

        @Gina That's what the @modal collective has been calling for (and is acting on) too: https://modal.cx/blog/sovereign-mobile-stack/

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        • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

          @bert_hubert fully agree. Btw are you going to the ibestuur conference? It might be nice to see what's been happening in the realm of MijnBureau and DAWO.

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          @Gina no - I assume all is great with MijnBureau and DAWO. The problem is that no one wants to deploy anything, no matter how great the solutions are.

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          • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

            I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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            @Gina Yes! Still looking forward to the day when I can install a Linux or BSD distro on *any* phone without any hassle

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            • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

              @Gina no - I assume all is great with MijnBureau and DAWO. The problem is that no one wants to deploy anything, no matter how great the solutions are.

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              @bert_hubert @Gina "Deploy it or the won't come"... sounds like a Bert blog post title πŸ™‚

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              • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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                @Gina Government should simply stop creating iOS and Android apps and only create PWAs. Additionally, make a list of devices/OS combinations that do not undermine Dutch sovereignty. And, like @bert_hubert deploy, deploy, deploy. And cancel the slm-mga aka slm-maga

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                • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                  I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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                  @Gina There are thankfully mobile options already. With GrapheneOS - you can even run a "closed off" google services api - to get chromecast working.
                  If you can do without chromecast - e/OS (with locked bootloader)- means netflix, banking apps etc. works fine.
                  Of all the apps I have tried only McDonalds app won't work on any of them πŸ™‚
                  Jolla afaik runs the same - even though its not even Android.

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                  • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                    @Gina no - I assume all is great with MijnBureau and DAWO. The problem is that no one wants to deploy anything, no matter how great the solutions are.

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                    #11

                    @bert_hubert @Gina "no one get fired for using [insert big tech]"

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                    • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                      I'm glad that we're finally realizing that we need open source alternatives for the desktop and our apps, but can we also focus on mobile devices now?

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                      It's ridiculous that we basically have two mobile 'options', both with restrictive, proprietary app stores (see also https://keepandroidopen.org/).

                      If Europe values digital sovereignty, then it needs to invest more in open hardware, open source OS's, and alternative app stores. πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                      @Fairphone
                      @jolla
                      @LineageOS
                      @sailfishosnews
                      @ubports
                      @GrapheneOS
                      @postmarketOS
                      @e_mydata
                      @fdroidorg
                      @IzzyOnDroid

                      #opensource #digitalsovereignty #foss

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                      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                        It's ridiculous that we basically have two mobile 'options', both with restrictive, proprietary app stores (see also https://keepandroidopen.org/).

                        If Europe values digital sovereignty, then it needs to invest more in open hardware, open source OS's, and alternative app stores. πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                        @Fairphone
                        @jolla
                        @LineageOS
                        @sailfishosnews
                        @ubports
                        @GrapheneOS
                        @postmarketOS
                        @e_mydata
                        @fdroidorg
                        @IzzyOnDroid

                        #opensource #digitalsovereignty #foss

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                        #13

                        Paging @EC_DIGIT and @EUCommission πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

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                        • defuneste@fosstodon.orgD defuneste@fosstodon.org

                          @bert_hubert @Gina "no one get fired for using [insert big tech]"

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                          @defuneste @Gina https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/aws-and-microsoft-are-selling-much-more-than-cloud/

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                          • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                            Paging @EC_DIGIT and @EUCommission πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

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                            @Gina @EC_DIGIT @EUCommission

                            There was a public consultation about open source recently - that means there may be an update in the EU open source strategy soon? Probably they are analysing results now…
                            https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/news/commission-opens-call-evidence-open-source-digital-ecosystems

                            PS also follow @HennaVirkkunen for this kind of thing

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