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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite.

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  • frost@mastodon.ieF frost@mastodon.ie

    @elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet this is cool, though as I'm just starting to research currently available Google and ms alternatives, I'm wondering why, for example, NextCloud isn't here?

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    Hi @Frost, and thank you for your interest in ELFA! There are several existing alternatives that are readily avaialble. NextCloud is one of them. Those suites lack for now some important features: federation, end-to-end encryption, local-first and CRDTs. And we will be very happy to work with them to provide them access to those features. ELFA is an open platform looking for interoperability and convergence with other solutions. We are open to talk with NextCloud for collaboration!

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    • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

      Hi @timcoucou thanks for your interest and enthusiasm! The stack is based on Nextgraph, Tauri for native apps, and React combined with Svelte. The SDK for third party apps is for now available in React, Svelte and Vue, could be extended.

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      @elfa thanks πŸ™

      Other topic about the stack:

      What about AI capabilities in Elfa Suite? Your positioning on AI and agentic web? What about integration with AI agent rust framework, like Rig?

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      • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

        @elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet

        Hmm... BlockNote describes itself as:

        "The AI-native, open source rich text editor for React"

        That does not sound like something people here would typically be enthusiastic about?

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        Hi @tml and thanks for your question. We are glad you asked.
        There is no AI in ELFA and no plan to have it.
        As you must know (being in the business of collaborative software) BlockNote is a library/component that is used in hundreds of products, and only offers AI for those who want it.
        ELFA counts as its partner the wonderful BlockNote team, and we are going to work together to bring the best note taking, personal knowledge manager, and wiki to ELFA, without AI.

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        • iuvi@mastodon.socialI iuvi@mastodon.social

          @elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet need more post-quantum encryption than today ones

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          @iuvi We are planning on adding Post Quantum Cryptography to the Suite! Stay tuned. PQC is going to be mandatory by the end of 2030, according to EU Cyber Resilience Act.

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          • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

            We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!

            Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!

            @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.

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            ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)

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            @elfa Hi there, nice post. Will the suite be open source?

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            • timcoucou@mastodon.socialT timcoucou@mastodon.social

              @elfa thanks πŸ™

              Other topic about the stack:

              What about AI capabilities in Elfa Suite? Your positioning on AI and agentic web? What about integration with AI agent rust framework, like Rig?

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              @timcoucou No AI planned for now on our side.
              ELFA is an open platform where the user has full access and control over their data. If some developers want to add AI to their own system based on ELFA, they can.

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              • flq@freiburg.socialF flq@freiburg.social

                @elfa Hi there, nice post. Will the suite be open source?

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                @flq yes, as all projects funded by the Next Generation Internet initiative of the European Commission, and the NLnet foundation.

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                • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                  @elfa @artfulrobot How was your consortium chosen?

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                  @humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot We gathered spontaneously, knowing each other from the FOSS communities. We found complementarity, as each partner is responsible for their own area of development and expertise.

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                  • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                    @humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot We gathered spontaneously, knowing each other from the FOSS communities. We found complementarity, as each partner is responsible for their own area of development and expertise.

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                    @elfa @artfulrobot Yes but you must have tapped an EU fund for funding like Horizon or similar?

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                    • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                      @elfa @artfulrobot Yes but you must have tapped an EU fund for funding like Horizon or similar?

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                      @humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot Yes. see the press release, accessible from the home page https://elfaconsortium.eu

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                      • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                        @humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot Yes. see the press release, accessible from the home page https://elfaconsortium.eu

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                        @elfa @artfulrobot There is no privacy policy and you are collecting personal data.

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                        • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

                          @elfa @artfulrobot There is no privacy policy and you are collecting personal data.

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                          @humanhorseshoes I am not aware of any data collection on our site.
                          if you are referring to the subscription to the newsletter, there is a consent box, and you are redirected to the website of nextgraph.org that does contain a Privacy Policy.
                          If something is missing, please let us know

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                          • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                            @humanhorseshoes I am not aware of any data collection on our site.
                            if you are referring to the subscription to the newsletter, there is a consent box, and you are redirected to the website of nextgraph.org that does contain a Privacy Policy.
                            If something is missing, please let us know

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                            @elfa No policy, no consent mechanism. Who knows where it goes.

                            There needs to be a privacy policy on your home page.

                            Your responses are not confidence inspiring and I will give this whole project a miss.

                            Thanks

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                            • timcoucou@mastodon.socialT timcoucou@mastodon.social

                              @elfa thanks πŸ™

                              Other topic about the stack:

                              What about AI capabilities in Elfa Suite? Your positioning on AI and agentic web? What about integration with AI agent rust framework, like Rig?

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                              @elfa ThanksπŸ™

                              I see that Nextgraph speaks about smart contracts, which is great. Are they in the scope of Elfa?

                              If yes, what will be their capabilites?

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                                @elfa@fosstodon.org the phrase "I want to know whey you are launching" is not consent. You have no privacy policy on YOUR page and Nextgraph.org has a privacy policy that is four years old with massive gaps in it. I am not "overreacting" I am applying privacy law as written.

                                This will materially affect your Horizon funding. GDPR compliance is mandatory and if your consortium cannot show compliance then your funding is at risk because you are not compliant.

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                                • timcoucou@mastodon.socialT timcoucou@mastodon.social

                                  @elfa ThanksπŸ™

                                  I see that Nextgraph speaks about smart contracts, which is great. Are they in the scope of Elfa?

                                  If yes, what will be their capabilites?

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                                  @timcoucou No plan for smartcontracts in ELFA. We encourage you to ask the question to @nextgraph .

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                                    @elfa Now the "poor me defence".

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                                    • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                                      We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!

                                      Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!

                                      @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.

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                                      ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications

                                      The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.

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                                      ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)

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                                      @elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet Good, hope to see you soon in our administration

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                                      • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                                        We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!

                                        Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!

                                        @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.

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                                        ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications

                                        The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.

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                                        ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)

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                                        Timougue (@timcoucou@mastodon.social)

                                        Autonomi + Elfa = 🀩 ? OR Holochain/Unyt + Elfa = 🀩 ? OR Autonomi + Holochain/Unyt + Elfa = 🀩 ? @safenetwork @elfa@fosstodon.org @holochain@fosstodon.org

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                                        • elfa@fosstodon.orgE elfa@fosstodon.org

                                          We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!

                                          Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!

                                          @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications

                                          The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.

                                          favicon

                                          ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)

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                                          @elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet

                                          Just hope you actually develop it on thing like @Codeberg (or your own @forgejo), and upload binary / docker on an EU server.

                                          And not use Microslop Github and other US crap πŸ‘

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