We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite.
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@elfa sounds good. How would #chatControl likely impact this initiative?
Thanks for your question @artfulrobot
The answer is that you can self-host. Chat control only applies to large service providers. With ELFA you can also self-host at home, with a small NAS device. It is federated and works without need for a domain name. -
Thanks for your question @artfulrobot
The answer is that you can self-host. Chat control only applies to large service providers. With ELFA you can also self-host at home, with a small NAS device. It is federated and works without need for a domain name.@elfa awesome!
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet need more post-quantum encryption than today ones
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet
Hmm... BlockNote describes itself as:
"The AI-native, open source rich text editor for React"
That does not sound like something people here would typically be enthusiastic about?
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet this is cool, though as I'm just starting to research currently available Google and ms alternatives, I'm wondering why, for example, NextCloud isn't here?
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Thanks for your question @artfulrobot
The answer is that you can self-host. Chat control only applies to large service providers. With ELFA you can also self-host at home, with a small NAS device. It is federated and works without need for a domain name.@elfa @artfulrobot so you're accepting chat control even though it hasn't been passed. good to know
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet
Beautiful and necessary project with inspired european team members
my full support and hope.I am working on a decentralized emancipatory Society OS, and I would be happy to align with the Elfa Suite.
Did you already decide for the core tech stack? (Nextgraph, Tauri, React,...etc)
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet @elfa cool ! How does this work out with #ZenDiS opendesk ? Seems veeeeeery similar
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet
I am working on a Society OS.
A smooth integration between Elfa Suite and Holochain / Unyte could be awesome
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@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet @elfa cool ! How does this work out with #ZenDiS opendesk ? Seems veeeeeery similar
@jan Indeed, there are some similarities in the set of apps. It is a similar case as with other existing Suites : they lack for now some important features: federation, end-to-end encryption, local-first and CRDTs. And we will be very happy to work with them to provide them access to those features. ELFA is an open platform looking for interoperability and convergence with other solutions. We talked with ZenDiS during FOSDEM last week. Let's see how we could make this collaboration happen
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@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet
Beautiful and necessary project with inspired european team members
my full support and hope.I am working on a decentralized emancipatory Society OS, and I would be happy to align with the Elfa Suite.
Did you already decide for the core tech stack? (Nextgraph, Tauri, React,...etc)
Hi @timcoucou thanks for your interest and enthusiasm! The stack is based on Nextgraph, Tauri for native apps, and React combined with Svelte. The SDK for third party apps is for now available in React, Svelte and Vue, could be extended.
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@elfa @artfulrobot so you're accepting chat control even though it hasn't been passed. good to know
@humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot We at ELFA don't "accept" chat control. We would like it not to be adopted. We consider that E2EE and privacy is a fundamental right to every citizen. We also consider that such legislation would not improve the security situation. Chat control is not adopted yet, but we don't know what will be in the future.
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@humanhorseshoes @artfulrobot We at ELFA don't "accept" chat control. We would like it not to be adopted. We consider that E2EE and privacy is a fundamental right to every citizen. We also consider that such legislation would not improve the security situation. Chat control is not adopted yet, but we don't know what will be in the future.
@elfa @artfulrobot How was your consortium chosen?
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@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet this is cool, though as I'm just starting to research currently available Google and ms alternatives, I'm wondering why, for example, NextCloud isn't here?
Hi @Frost, and thank you for your interest in ELFA! There are several existing alternatives that are readily avaialble. NextCloud is one of them. Those suites lack for now some important features: federation, end-to-end encryption, local-first and CRDTs. And we will be very happy to work with them to provide them access to those features. ELFA is an open platform looking for interoperability and convergence with other solutions. We are open to talk with NextCloud for collaboration!
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Hi @timcoucou thanks for your interest and enthusiasm! The stack is based on Nextgraph, Tauri for native apps, and React combined with Svelte. The SDK for third party apps is for now available in React, Svelte and Vue, could be extended.
@elfa thanks
Other topic about the stack:
What about AI capabilities in Elfa Suite? Your positioning on AI and agentic web? What about integration with AI agent rust framework, like Rig?
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@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet
Hmm... BlockNote describes itself as:
"The AI-native, open source rich text editor for React"
That does not sound like something people here would typically be enthusiastic about?
Hi @tml and thanks for your question. We are glad you asked.
There is no AI in ELFA and no plan to have it.
As you must know (being in the business of collaborative software) BlockNote is a library/component that is used in hundreds of products, and only offers AI for those who want it.
ELFA counts as its partner the wonderful BlockNote team, and we are going to work together to bring the best note taking, personal knowledge manager, and wiki to ELFA, without AI. -
@elfa @nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf @nlnet need more post-quantum encryption than today ones
@iuvi We are planning on adding Post Quantum Cryptography to the Suite! Stay tuned. PQC is going to be mandatory by the end of 2030, according to EU Cyber Resilience Act.
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We are very happy to announce that the European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, video calls, and more!
Gathering 12 partners for at least 3 years, towards a suite composed of 16 apps!
@nextgraph @ironcalc @blocknote @AnanasTeknik @ontola @xwiki @CryptPad @uradotdesign @danubetech @xrhf and @nlnet who will soon offer sub-granting.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications
The European Commission is funding the ELFA consortium to build a local-first, end-to-end encrypted workspace suite. Core tools include documents, spreadsheets, email, calendar, chat, and video calls.
ELFA: Encrypted Local-First Applications (elfaconsortium.eu)
@elfa Hi there, nice post. Will the suite be open source?
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@elfa thanks
Other topic about the stack:
What about AI capabilities in Elfa Suite? Your positioning on AI and agentic web? What about integration with AI agent rust framework, like Rig?
@timcoucou No AI planned for now on our side.
ELFA is an open platform where the user has full access and control over their data. If some developers want to add AI to their own system based on ELFA, they can. -
@elfa Hi there, nice post. Will the suite be open source?
@flq yes, as all projects funded by the Next Generation Internet initiative of the European Commission, and the NLnet foundation.
