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  3. Fossil gas is a feedstock for the Haber-Bosch process used to make fertiliser (but invented for making early 20th Century munitions).

Fossil gas is a feedstock for the Haber-Bosch process used to make fertiliser (but invented for making early 20th Century munitions).

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  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

    …“And the [LNG] price spikes are already hitting European importers and futures markets.

    There’s also nitrogen fertilizer. Over 40% of internationally traded nitrogen fertilizers originate from or are navigated through the Persian Gulf.

    Nitrogen fertilizer starts with natural gas, which is then the feedstock for ammonia, which becomes urea, which goes on the fields around the world, and a disrupted planting cycle could translate into food price inflation very quickly, within months…

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    …“And food inflation in import-dependent nations that have very thin fiscal reserves like Egypt or Pakistan or Turkey, becomes political quite quickly. A recent guest on TGS, Craig Tindale, labeled this situation as a potential globalized Arab Spring…

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    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

      …“And food inflation in import-dependent nations that have very thin fiscal reserves like Egypt or Pakistan or Turkey, becomes political quite quickly. A recent guest on TGS, Craig Tindale, labeled this situation as a potential globalized Arab Spring…

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      …“Beyond energy, fuel, and inflation, there’s also the supply chain precursors for something like 6,000 distinct products that move through the Straits of Hormuz. Thousands of products, from polyester to medical plastics to semiconductors. They all use petroleum as precursors to their physical products or in the process that makes them…

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      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

        …“Beyond energy, fuel, and inflation, there’s also the supply chain precursors for something like 6,000 distinct products that move through the Straits of Hormuz. Thousands of products, from polyester to medical plastics to semiconductors. They all use petroleum as precursors to their physical products or in the process that makes them…

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        …“The wide boundary point here is this.

        We’re not watching an oil price shock.

        We’re watching the exposure of a civilization that organized itself around maximum efficiency and zero redundancy, and built a single point of geopolitical failure into the center of a global physical economy, the Straits of Hormuz and the situation there is the most consequential single location on the planet for the foreseeable future.”

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        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

          …“The wide boundary point here is this.

          We’re not watching an oil price shock.

          We’re watching the exposure of a civilization that organized itself around maximum efficiency and zero redundancy, and built a single point of geopolitical failure into the center of a global physical economy, the Straits of Hormuz and the situation there is the most consequential single location on the planet for the foreseeable future.”

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          …At this point, I’ll share where the transcript across the preceding 8 posts is from.

          It’s a half hour podcast episode:

          ‘Wide Boundary News: The Iranian War, Rising Gas Prices, and the Single Point Failure’

          Audio: https://overcast.fm/+BTumXe5m9g
          Text [pdf]: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Frankly-130-Transcript-WBN-10-March-2026.docx.pdf

          I’ll go on to share a bit more but I recommend listening to the whole thing.

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          • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

            …At this point, I’ll share where the transcript across the preceding 8 posts is from.

            It’s a half hour podcast episode:

            ‘Wide Boundary News: The Iranian War, Rising Gas Prices, and the Single Point Failure’

            Audio: https://overcast.fm/+BTumXe5m9g
            Text [pdf]: https://www.thegreatsimplification.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/03/Frankly-130-Transcript-WBN-10-March-2026.docx.pdf

            I’ll go on to share a bit more but I recommend listening to the whole thing.

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            …The next bit gets into military asymmetry and dependencies.

            “In ecology and economics, stocks are what’s accumulated and flows are what moves through them.

            The problem is that flows feel infinite right up until the stock runs out. And I refer to this as the slurping sound with respect to oil extraction.

            Stocks and flows apply to military capacity as well…

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            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

              …The next bit gets into military asymmetry and dependencies.

              “In ecology and economics, stocks are what’s accumulated and flows are what moves through them.

              The problem is that flows feel infinite right up until the stock runs out. And I refer to this as the slurping sound with respect to oil extraction.

              Stocks and flows apply to military capacity as well…

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              …“The US has historically had the most impressive offensive flow, capacity: shock and awe, precision strikes, the ability to put bombs on target anywhere on earth, within hours.

              But the stocks, particularly the stocks of things like interceptor missiles maybe getting dangerously low.

              I’m told by people who follow this closely that the US and Israel have been firing 5 to 7 interceptors for every incoming Iranian missile…

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              • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                …“And food inflation in import-dependent nations that have very thin fiscal reserves like Egypt or Pakistan or Turkey, becomes political quite quickly. A recent guest on TGS, Craig Tindale, labeled this situation as a potential globalized Arab Spring…

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                @urlyman Any current shortages are just profiteering.

                But if the current stupidity goes on for some months, then yes, there will be a simultaneous uptick in energy prices and fertiliser prices. Anywhere dictatorial that relies on rural voters to outweigh urban voters (hello, Turkey, Pakistan) will be in trouble.

                Don’t forget the recursive effect of oil price increases on shipping which affects costs of everything being shipped. Hello, inflation.

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                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                  …“The US has historically had the most impressive offensive flow, capacity: shock and awe, precision strikes, the ability to put bombs on target anywhere on earth, within hours.

                  But the stocks, particularly the stocks of things like interceptor missiles maybe getting dangerously low.

                  I’m told by people who follow this closely that the US and Israel have been firing 5 to 7 interceptors for every incoming Iranian missile…

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                  …“And by the way, each of those interceptors cost millions of dollars and takes months to manufacture.

                  A PAC-3 interceptor costs like $4 million. In contrast, a Shahed drone made in Iran costs around $50K. That’s a cost-exchange ratio of about nearly 100:1 in Iran’s favor. So Iran doesn't need to win the Air War outright. They probably just need to keep up intermittent launches long enough to limit what the US can shoot back with…

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                  • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                    …“And by the way, each of those interceptors cost millions of dollars and takes months to manufacture.

                    A PAC-3 interceptor costs like $4 million. In contrast, a Shahed drone made in Iran costs around $50K. That’s a cost-exchange ratio of about nearly 100:1 in Iran’s favor. So Iran doesn't need to win the Air War outright. They probably just need to keep up intermittent launches long enough to limit what the US can shoot back with…

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                    …“And Secretary of State Rubio said publicly that Iran is producing offensive weapons faster than the US and its allies can manufacture interceptors to stop them. And the Secretary of War suggested this war may go on for months.

                    The US is historically structured for periodic high intensity bursts, not
                    sustained engagement. The assumption has always been overwhelming force, short duration, then restock. But that model does not hold if a conflict drags on. Especially a large conflict.”

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                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                      …“And sulfur’s the feedstock for sulfuric acid and sulfuric acid is what we use to leach copper and cobalt out of the ground in places like the DRC and Zambia. The two of those countries together supply over a sixth of global copper and more than 70% of global cobalt.

                      So the little oil snafu in the Straits of Hormuz could lead to no marginal copper or cobalt.

                      No transformers, no grid expansion. No grid expansion, no data centers, which means no EV charging infrastructure, no AI build out, etc…

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                      @urlyman Copper as a conductor is in many places readily replaceable by aluminium - and often already is, for price reasons.

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                      • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                        …“And Secretary of State Rubio said publicly that Iran is producing offensive weapons faster than the US and its allies can manufacture interceptors to stop them. And the Secretary of War suggested this war may go on for months.

                        The US is historically structured for periodic high intensity bursts, not
                        sustained engagement. The assumption has always been overwhelming force, short duration, then restock. But that model does not hold if a conflict drags on. Especially a large conflict.”

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                        …If there’s a single sentence to take away from the above, it’s:

                        “Flows feel infinite right up until the stock runs out”.

                        - - -

                        But that’s enough for now. If it’s too much for you, then sorry, mute or block me.

                        I’m not going to be not interested in this stuff.

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                          @violetmadder Yesss!

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                          • martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM martinvermeer@fediscience.org

                            @urlyman Copper as a conductor is in many places readily replaceable by aluminium - and often already is, for price reasons.

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                            • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                              …“And Secretary of State Rubio said publicly that Iran is producing offensive weapons faster than the US and its allies can manufacture interceptors to stop them. And the Secretary of War suggested this war may go on for months.

                              The US is historically structured for periodic high intensity bursts, not
                              sustained engagement. The assumption has always been overwhelming force, short duration, then restock. But that model does not hold if a conflict drags on. Especially a large conflict.”

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                              @urlyman and with the US stock of weapons quickly depleting, what will happen in other regions? North Korea against South Korea? China and Taiwan? Russia in Europe? Who will use this opportunity to use force?

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                              • carstenfranke@mastodon.socialC carstenfranke@mastodon.social

                                @urlyman and with the US stock of weapons quickly depleting, what will happen in other regions? North Korea against South Korea? China and Taiwan? Russia in Europe? Who will use this opportunity to use force?

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                                @carstenfranke aye

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                                • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                  …“And by the way, each of those interceptors cost millions of dollars and takes months to manufacture.

                                  A PAC-3 interceptor costs like $4 million. In contrast, a Shahed drone made in Iran costs around $50K. That’s a cost-exchange ratio of about nearly 100:1 in Iran’s favor. So Iran doesn't need to win the Air War outright. They probably just need to keep up intermittent launches long enough to limit what the US can shoot back with…

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                                  @urlyman One should obviously compare with the cost of the damage the incoming drone or missile is likely to do, not with the cost of it.

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                                  • tml@mementomori.socialT tml@mementomori.social

                                    @urlyman One should obviously compare with the cost of the damage the incoming drone or missile is likely to do, not with the cost of it.

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                                    @tml Sure.

                                    My point of the above thread is not to cast false certainties or wash away complexity. It’s to try and bring to the fore the fragile interconnectedness that the Secretary of War and his dick-swinging colleagues are blowing up

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                                    • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                      @tml Sure.

                                      My point of the above thread is not to cast false certainties or wash away complexity. It’s to try and bring to the fore the fragile interconnectedness that the Secretary of War and his dick-swinging colleagues are blowing up

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                                      @urlyman @tml But the relative depletion dynamic is about the cost/effort of manufacture, and that only.

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                                      • martinvermeer@fediscience.orgM martinvermeer@fediscience.org

                                        @urlyman @tml But the relative depletion dynamic is about the cost/effort of manufacture, and that only.

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                                        @martinvermeer the Straits of Hormuz are the epicentre of the mother of all flows. Nothing in that context is about one thing only. Everything has nth-order effects.

                                        @tml

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                                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                                          …“And Secretary of State Rubio said publicly that Iran is producing offensive weapons faster than the US and its allies can manufacture interceptors to stop them. And the Secretary of War suggested this war may go on for months.

                                          The US is historically structured for periodic high intensity bursts, not
                                          sustained engagement. The assumption has always been overwhelming force, short duration, then restock. But that model does not hold if a conflict drags on. Especially a large conflict.”

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                                          @urlyman

                                          They are producing defensive weapons. The USA is firing on their homes.
                                          Typical of a US pol to use language to spin the narrative.
                                          They are , amazingly enough, permitted to produce weapons to defend themselves, and to strike at the people who struck at them first, including if those persons are based in someone else's country, because their own country is too far away, which in turn begs the question, WHY DID THE US START DROPPING BOMBS?
                                          The rant took over: I decided to let it run

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