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  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

    @saskia@backend.newsmast.org about to lay on some hard truths about what normies think of the fediverse

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    "What is the fediverse"?

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    Oh boy. The language we use matters.

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      #32

      Having some FOMO for FediMTL since it’s in my hometown.

      But appreciate @julian live-tooting the event!

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      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

        "What is the fediverse"?

        1000012132.jpg

        Oh boy. The language we use matters.

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        #33

        @saskia@backend.newsmast.org going through many of the apps they've built for projects, institutions, papers, etc.

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        They all share a common thread, none of them talk about the fediverse, ActivityPub, Mastodon, Bonfire, etc.

        They all also have split DMs away from the public feed. Heh 😏

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        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

          "What is the fediverse"?

          1000012132.jpg

          Oh boy. The language we use matters.

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          #34

          @julian Some great thoughts to chew on there.

          Particularly with my current paper-in-progress being all about crafting your message for the audience.

          Now churning away on how to choose the words in the vocabulary of municipal governance. Neither "fediverse" nor "open web" is a hook for them ... but they are coming to understand what "Open Data" means. They also have a view of what "social media" is, but WE don't want to use that, as we're trying to differentiate. What, then?

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          • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

            @saskia@backend.newsmast.org going through many of the apps they've built for projects, institutions, papers, etc.

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            They all share a common thread, none of them talk about the fediverse, ActivityPub, Mastodon, Bonfire, etc.

            They all also have split DMs away from the public feed. Heh 😏

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            #35

            After travel delays, @evan@cosocial.ca has made it to FediMTL!

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            Wait, this presentation isn't about the fête d'hiver?

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            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

              "What is the fediverse"?

              1000012132.jpg

              Oh boy. The language we use matters.

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              #36

              @julian 👏 to “variances in iron”. 😃

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              • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                After travel delays, @evan@cosocial.ca has made it to FediMTL!

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                Wait, this presentation isn't about the fête d'hiver?

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                #37

                How corporate social media uses algorithmic feeds to make you stay on-platform

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                • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                  How corporate social media uses algorithmic feeds to make you stay on-platform

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                  Huh. Food for thought.

                  (The China flag later flips to an American flag)

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                  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

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                    Huh. Food for thought.

                    (The China flag later flips to an American flag)

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                    #39

                    @evan@cosocial.ca asks for a show of hands of people who have quit a social network and later gone back.

                    More than a few hands go up.

                    "And this is in a room of people who are really good at quitting social networks... and making their own"

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                      @julian thanks for the coverage!!!

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                      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                        @evan@cosocial.ca asks for a show of hands of people who have quit a social network and later gone back.

                        More than a few hands go up.

                        "And this is in a room of people who are really good at quitting social networks... and making their own"

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                        #41

                        Oh hey look!

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                        Evan reporting 43k+ independent servers operating as of today.

                        These open source projects get those larger organizations on to the fediverse.

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                        • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                          Oh hey look!

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                          Evan reporting 43k+ independent servers operating as of today.

                          These open source projects get those larger organizations on to the fediverse.

                          1000012140.jpg

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                          Oh here's a hot take.

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                          "To a large extent, media still thinks corporate social media matters, even if they were kicked off of X or Facebook" (paraphrased)

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                          • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                            Oh here's a hot take.

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                            "To a large extent, media still thinks corporate social media matters, even if they were kicked off of X or Facebook" (paraphrased)

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                            @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                            Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                            Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                              @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                              Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                              Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                              It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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                              • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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                                Here now we have @meadmin@qlub.social talking about Qlub on its 1st anniversary!

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                                • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                  Here now we have @meadmin@qlub.social talking about Qlub on its 1st anniversary!

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                                  A quick reflection over the realization that @newsmast@newsmast.social's channels are made up of the very same building blocks that power categorisation efforts on ActivityPub.Space » collecting and curating hashtagged content

                                  What's the term for that again, convergent evolution?

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                                  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                    @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                                    Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                                    Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                                    #47

                                    @julian @evan @Bonfire @fedify

                                    Hey @benpate, this is all the proof you need that Emissary needs an account of its own!

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                                    • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                                      @julian @evan @Bonfire @fedify

                                      Hey @benpate, this is all the proof you need that Emissary needs an account of its own!

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                                      @liaizon

                                      Everything on the table:

                                      I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                                      Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                                      It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                                      But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                                        @liaizon

                                        Everything on the table:

                                        I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                                        Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                                        It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                                        But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                                        @benpate I think projects dogfooding their own software is super important but I can also see it hindering some fediverse projects at the same time. In a nod to something Evan said to you and me and Hong while we were at FOSDEM: you could use Hollo for your projects account and get @hongminhee to use Emmisary for one of their projects and then you both could push the dogfood towards eachother

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                                        • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                                          @liaizon

                                          Everything on the table:

                                          I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                                          Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                                          It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                                          But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                                          fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

                                          In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

                                          Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

                                          @liaizon@social.wake.st

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