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  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

    After travel delays, @evan@cosocial.ca has made it to FediMTL!

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    Wait, this presentation isn't about the fête d'hiver?

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    How corporate social media uses algorithmic feeds to make you stay on-platform

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    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

      How corporate social media uses algorithmic feeds to make you stay on-platform

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      Huh. Food for thought.

      (The China flag later flips to an American flag)

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      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

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        Huh. Food for thought.

        (The China flag later flips to an American flag)

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        #39

        @evan@cosocial.ca asks for a show of hands of people who have quit a social network and later gone back.

        More than a few hands go up.

        "And this is in a room of people who are really good at quitting social networks... and making their own"

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          @julian thanks for the coverage!!!

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          • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

            @evan@cosocial.ca asks for a show of hands of people who have quit a social network and later gone back.

            More than a few hands go up.

            "And this is in a room of people who are really good at quitting social networks... and making their own"

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            Oh hey look!

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            Evan reporting 43k+ independent servers operating as of today.

            These open source projects get those larger organizations on to the fediverse.

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            • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

              Oh hey look!

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              Evan reporting 43k+ independent servers operating as of today.

              These open source projects get those larger organizations on to the fediverse.

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              Oh here's a hot take.

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              "To a large extent, media still thinks corporate social media matters, even if they were kicked off of X or Facebook" (paraphrased)

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              • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                Oh here's a hot take.

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                "To a large extent, media still thinks corporate social media matters, even if they were kicked off of X or Facebook" (paraphrased)

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                #43

                @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                  @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                  Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                  Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                  It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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                  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                    It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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                    #45

                    Here now we have @meadmin@qlub.social talking about Qlub on its 1st anniversary!

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                    • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                      Here now we have @meadmin@qlub.social talking about Qlub on its 1st anniversary!

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                      A quick reflection over the realization that @newsmast@newsmast.social's channels are made up of the very same building blocks that power categorisation efforts on ActivityPub.Space » collecting and curating hashtagged content

                      What's the term for that again, convergent evolution?

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                      • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                        @evan@cosocial.ca being asked what types of fediverse apps he's excited about, considering that there is a lot of "this is xyz but federated"

                        Shoutouts to @bonfire@bonfire.cafe @fedify@hollo.social @benpate@mastodon.social (Emissary!)

                        Forums and threadiverse apps got shoutouts ad well.

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                        @julian @evan @Bonfire @fedify

                        Hey @benpate, this is all the proof you need that Emissary needs an account of its own!

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                        • liaizon@social.wake.stL liaizon@social.wake.st

                          @julian @evan @Bonfire @fedify

                          Hey @benpate, this is all the proof you need that Emissary needs an account of its own!

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                          @liaizon

                          Everything on the table:

                          I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                          Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                          It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                          But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                          • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                            @liaizon

                            Everything on the table:

                            I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                            Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                            It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                            But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                            @benpate I think projects dogfooding their own software is super important but I can also see it hindering some fediverse projects at the same time. In a nod to something Evan said to you and me and Hong while we were at FOSDEM: you could use Hollo for your projects account and get @hongminhee to use Emmisary for one of their projects and then you both could push the dogfood towards eachother

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                            • benpate@mastodon.socialB benpate@mastodon.social

                              @liaizon

                              Everything on the table:

                              I should do this, but have been waiting because I *really* want to self-host the main #Emissary and #Bandwagon accounts on my own software.

                              Right now, Emissary is a great PUBLISHER and READER, but it does a poor job with DMs. So I couldn’t really use Emissary to support questions like this one.

                              It’s been on my roadmap for a while, and it’s why I’m excited to build #e2ee DMs, too.

                              But I do plan to launch these as soon as I have a good solution for DMs.

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                              fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

                              In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

                              Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

                              @liaizon@social.wake.st

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                              • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

                                In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

                                Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

                                @liaizon@social.wake.st

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                                Yes, that makes a lot of sense. In my case think of Emissaey as a super charged RSS reader and you’re half way there.

                                So DMs work great if you’re someone I already follow (like an RSS news source). But it actively discards messages from unknown senders. That’s great for limiting spam and trolls, but a non-starter for supporting real DMs.

                                @julian @liaizon

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                                • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                  fwiw @benpate@mastodon.social I had the same thoughts go through my head. I literally had no concept of reduced visibility content in NodeBB, so trying to find a parallel was hard.

                                  In the end I launched without support for non-public content and I'll always wonder what I missed out on 😅

                                  Then one night randomly I had a brainwave that reduced visibility content mapped more or less to NodeBB chats, and that was that.

                                  @liaizon@social.wake.st

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                                  Right now, I’m👌🏻 this close to making it work correctly, so I need to see it through.

                                  If Emissary becomes the platform for publishers (music, art, blogs) then DMs will need to work differently - almost like a CRM, where publishers can field questions and keep track of which “tickets” are still open.

                                  I have some designs for this already, and will be working that into a unified messenger.

                                  I just need a little more time 😭

                                  @julian @liaizon

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                                  • julian@activitypub.spaceJ julian@activitypub.space

                                    It really speaks to the audience a bit that every time I attend a fediverse focused conference the phrase "seize the means of production" always gets said at some point 😏 (not usually in presentation, mind you)

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                                    @julian Disgust: using the phrase "seize the means of production" because that verb implies taking without any return, compensation, consideration.

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                                      @julian @cwebber if the tools is enjoyable to use, people will come. At first there was maybe a lack of people issue but twitter solved that

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                                      • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

                                        Having some FOMO for FediMTL since it’s in my hometown.

                                        But appreciate @julian live-tooting the event!

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                                        @django@social.coop were you in Montreal? Next time we should plan a meet up!

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                                          @julian I wasn't (based in Edmonton now). Meet up would be great, hope I can time my next visit with one of Foulab's monthly fediverse nights !

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