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I am colourblind.

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  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

    I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

    floreana@poliversity.itF This user is from outside of this forum
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    @fesshole
    There's a great accessibility tip in this fess!

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    • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

      @Mellivora @fesshole if he gave that feedback with the rejections it could be in line with some accessibility regulations.

      mellivora@im-in.spaceM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Mabande@mastodon.social they're using their disability as an excuse to be a power tripping dickhead. I would've reported them and people like you making excuses for these sort of people are part of the problem. @fesshole

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      • mabande@mastodon.socialM mabande@mastodon.social

        @Mellivora @fesshole if he gave that feedback with the rejections it could be in line with some accessibility regulations.

        mabande@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        Just for posterity: They sent him charts he couldn't read. Was he supposed to give the go ahead on stuff he couldn't verify?

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        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

          I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

          retrosponge@kind.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @fesshole YES! As a fellow colourblind person, I 100% support this!

          1 in 35 women and 1 in 7 men are colour blind.

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          • retrosponge@kind.socialR retrosponge@kind.social

            @fesshole YES! As a fellow colourblind person, I 100% support this!

            1 in 35 women and 1 in 7 men are colour blind.

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            @retrosponge @fesshole thank you for enlightening me, didn’t know the numbers where that high!
            But I always made sure my work is readable for all human beings.

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            • elnecesario@mastodon.socialE elnecesario@mastodon.social

              @retrosponge @fesshole thank you for enlightening me, didn’t know the numbers where that high!
              But I always made sure my work is readable for all human beings.

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              @elnecesario @fesshole I get mad at game designers who don't take this into consideration and add it as an accessibility option afterwards. Why not do it in the original design?

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              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

                haikyoneko@famichiki.jpH This user is from outside of this forum
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                @fesshole When I did my teaching degree, my professor taught me to never use red or green on a whiteboard because colourblind students wouldn't be able to see it. Unfortunately, judging by the number or presentations I now see from professional people, it's not widely known. Or people just don't give a shit.

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                • haikyoneko@famichiki.jpH haikyoneko@famichiki.jp

                  @fesshole When I did my teaching degree, my professor taught me to never use red or green on a whiteboard because colourblind students wouldn't be able to see it. Unfortunately, judging by the number or presentations I now see from professional people, it's not widely known. Or people just don't give a shit.

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                  @Haikyoneko @fesshole …or degenerative 'AI' doesn't give a shit.

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                  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                    I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                    @fesshole OK, I don't disagree. I transitioned a few years ago to using accessible colours for my statistical figures. Everyone should learn about this! We can all explore methods of creating statistical figures that are accessible to communities with various abilities.

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                    • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                      I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                      @fesshole I think you are wrong in your final conclusion

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                      • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                        I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                        @fesshole But you're color blind 😅

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                        • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                          I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                          @fesshole if you are reviewing you shouldn’t have to. The editors should have this fixed before review

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                          • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

                            @Mabande@mastodon.social they're using their disability as an excuse to be a power tripping dickhead. I would've reported them and people like you making excuses for these sort of people are part of the problem. @fesshole

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                            @Mellivora @fesshole All graphing software would have the lines distinguished by other things: dots and dashes, added squares or circles.

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                            • negative12dollarbill@techhub.socialN negative12dollarbill@techhub.social

                              @Mellivora @fesshole All graphing software would have the lines distinguished by other things: dots and dashes, added squares or circles.

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                              @negative12dollarbill that still doesn't excuse a dickhead using his disability as an excuse to be a powertripping asshat. Just rubs off as someone who is insufferable to work with. @fesshole

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                              • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                                @fesshole Did you give them that as feedback? 'Cause if you didn't it was a dick move.

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                                • mellivora@im-in.spaceM mellivora@im-in.space

                                  @negative12dollarbill that still doesn't excuse a dickhead using his disability as an excuse to be a powertripping asshat. Just rubs off as someone who is insufferable to work with. @fesshole

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                                  @Mellivora @negative12dollarbill @fesshole

                                  About one man in twelve has some form of colourblindness:

                                  https://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/

                                  If Fessor can't make sense of the graphs in the paper then a good many men (and a smaller number of women) will have the same problem. As long as Fessor explains the reason for rejecting the paper, I think it's valid.

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                                  • fesshole@mastodon.socialF fesshole@mastodon.social

                                    I am colourblind. I have completely rejected academic manuscripts and proposals that use only red and green in graphs without shape or line width differences. If they are that incompetent about use of colour, they are not going to be better in other things.

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                                    @fesshole I'm a company editor and I've rejected reports and presentations for the same reason. Accessibility is important!

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                                    • iainbertram@mastodon.auI iainbertram@mastodon.au

                                      @fesshole if you are reviewing you shouldn’t have to. The editors should have this fixed before review

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                                      @iainbertram @fesshole academic publishers are worse at editing than children's books publishing houses, it's extremely outrageous

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                                      • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                                        @Mellivora @negative12dollarbill @fesshole

                                        About one man in twelve has some form of colourblindness:

                                        https://www.colourblindawareness.org/colour-blindness/

                                        If Fessor can't make sense of the graphs in the paper then a good many men (and a smaller number of women) will have the same problem. As long as Fessor explains the reason for rejecting the paper, I think it's valid.

                                        celesteh@post.lurk.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @CppGuy @Mellivora @negative12dollarbill @fesshole

                                        The normal way for dealing with this level of error is to ask the author to fix it. That kind of feedback would be extremely valuable for people like early career researchers or people who have not been taught to consider accessibility.

                                        I hope the OP does at least include this feedback in the rejection, but since its not usually considered a major fuckup, I fear this will get lost amoung whatever more serious error is given as a pretext. Indeed, if that error is not really a problem of would undermine the rest of the feedback.

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