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  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH This user is from outside of this forum
    hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH This user is from outside of this forum
    hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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    #1

    Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

    Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

    We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

    hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH abt554@social.vivaldi.netA stefanfrede@mastodon.socialS john@social.ahlroos.meJ zughy_boi@mastodon.socialZ 17 Replies Last reply
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    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

      Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

      Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

      We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

      hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH This user is from outside of this forum
      hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      We say this loud and clear: online platforms are responsible for protecting minors, and they need to do more to deliver on this responsibility.

      The full press releases:

      🔗 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_722
      🔗 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_723

      bjoreman@toot.cafeB paul_harts@mastodon.nlP 2 Replies Last reply
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      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

        We say this loud and clear: online platforms are responsible for protecting minors, and they need to do more to deliver on this responsibility.

        The full press releases:

        🔗 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_722
        🔗 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_26_723

        bjoreman@toot.cafeB This user is from outside of this forum
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        @HennaVirkkunen How is that to be done without handing these platforms our identities and ability to track us? Seems the last thing I want is for them to be trusted with anything.

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        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

          Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

          Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

          We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

          abt554@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @HennaVirkkunen

          *Ugh*

          Please not another excuse for why "handing over all your personal information and ID documents to random Internet services is good actually" 🙄

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          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

            Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

            Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

            We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

            stefanfrede@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            @HennaVirkkunen Spare me the "save the children" nonsense about implementing mass surveillance. It's disgusting! If you want to protect children, use the existing laws, which are sufficient, and regulate the platforms responsible for most of the problems. If you don't understand the problem, then maybe stop listening to people who are paid by those same unregulated platforms and start listening to experts without an agenda.

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            • stefanfrede@mastodon.socialS stefanfrede@mastodon.social

              @HennaVirkkunen Spare me the "save the children" nonsense about implementing mass surveillance. It's disgusting! If you want to protect children, use the existing laws, which are sufficient, and regulate the platforms responsible for most of the problems. If you don't understand the problem, then maybe stop listening to people who are paid by those same unregulated platforms and start listening to experts without an agenda.

              stefanfrede@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              @HennaVirkkunen For context.

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              • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

                john@social.ahlroos.meJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                @HennaVirkkunen

                Are you suggesting it would be safe for EU citizens to submit their passport details to services like PornHub?

                I think the sentiment is good but for age verification to work it needs to be provided as a service on EU/local governmental level to not leak sensitive information.

                Unfortunatly not all countries have the faith in their goverment the same way we in Finland have, and in some cases for good reason, so age verification will be tricky to implement.

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                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                  Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                  Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                  We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

                  zughy_boi@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @HennaVirkkunen how exactly these platforms should identify minors? And what would prevent minors from using a VPN to connect from a country that doesn't put such restrictions? Also, let's say you target the big players and VPNs are not a thing: how much time does it take to people to migrate to other less known porn sites, potentially being exposed to higher risks (e.g. viruses)?

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                  • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                    Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                    Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                    We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

                    manux@mastodon.opencloud.luM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @HennaVirkkunen M.me commissioner, little by little these companies are forcing age verification systems down to the operating systems. At that point, literally everything done on that computer/phone can be traced back to the ID card used for the verification, it does not matter how sophisticated the protocol may look like.
                    This is worrisome for many people.

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                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                      Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                      Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                      We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

                      morwud@mastodon.morwud.czM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @HennaVirkkunen How do you suggest the platforms should do that? The lazy way everybody around pushes results in the platforms storing huge ammouts of data with government issued IDs. If you don't trust them with child protection, do you really trust them to keep that data private, not leak them and not misuse them?

                      So please, really think through the next steps. Cause so far I see only really stupid solutions for this issue, resulting in weakening privacy in the name of protecting children.

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                      • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                        Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                        Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                        We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                        @HennaVirkkunen I understand all the concerns here, but do we realy want minors to grow up watching 5 dudes in a group r*pe like scene do a young underaged looking woman with pain in her face, urinating on her, thinking that's normal and they have to do or accept this in their later lifes?

                        Those are contents minors find behind these companies "Are you 18 years old? Klick yes or no!".

                        This is irresponsible!

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                        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                          Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                          Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                          We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

                          ikuturso@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @HennaVirkkunen it's interesting that there is almost no commentary or reaction to this on US-centric and controlled Bluesky while quite a bit here on the more European fediverse.

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                          • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                            Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                            Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                            We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                            @HennaVirkkunen personally I don't think age verification is something that works. It's like putting speedbumps on the highway because a few are driving too fast. Parents should educate their kids on how to use the internet. I would love to see more investigations on products our kids use that see show our kids stuff they should not see

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                            • bjoreman@toot.cafeB bjoreman@toot.cafe

                              @HennaVirkkunen How is that to be done without handing these platforms our identities and ability to track us? Seems the last thing I want is for them to be trusted with anything.

                              david@maximalismo.redD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              There is a simple way: the EU establishes a «neutral point of identity» similar to the passage of Spanish administration https://pasarela.clave.gob.es/. Just the regulation enabling it have to make sure it doesn't store data on which sites you visit.

                              This service only has to respond to the provider's request affirmatively or negatively given legal conditions to access its site.

                              CC: @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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                              • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                                Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                                We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                                @HennaVirkkunen

                                Just 2 cents: the EU should provide census API, so that it would be possible to verify age of people. Census is a govt job. There is no digital identity on internet.

                                This is a fault of governments. Once you create a digital ID to check with, then you have the right to complain about "you don't check their age".

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                                • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                  Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                                  Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                                  We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                                  @HennaVirkkunen And what priority has the protection of personal data of adults?

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                                  • david@maximalismo.redD david@maximalismo.red
                                    There is a simple way: the EU establishes a «neutral point of identity» similar to the passage of Spanish administration https://pasarela.clave.gob.es/. Just the regulation enabling it have to make sure it doesn't store data on which sites you visit.

                                    This service only has to respond to the provider's request affirmatively or negatively given legal conditions to access its site.

                                    CC: @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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                                    Ministerio de Asuntos Económicos y Transformación Digital

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                                    (pasarela.clave.gob.es)

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                                    @david @HennaVirkkunen That sounds reasonable-ish. I hope they don't build regulations which create a sea of very poor malicious compliance.

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                                    • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                      Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                                      Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                                      We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                                      #18

                                      @HennaVirkkunen You don't keep our kids safe by doing this, It's the opposite. That's sad for EU

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                                      • david@maximalismo.redD david@maximalismo.red
                                        There is a simple way: the EU establishes a «neutral point of identity» similar to the passage of Spanish administration https://pasarela.clave.gob.es/. Just the regulation enabling it have to make sure it doesn't store data on which sites you visit.

                                        This service only has to respond to the provider's request affirmatively or negatively given legal conditions to access its site.

                                        CC: @HennaVirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu
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                                        Ministerio de Asuntos Económicos y Transformación Digital

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                                        (pasarela.clave.gob.es)

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                                        @david @bjoreman @HennaVirkkunen that site somehow doesn't seem to work here. But in general, these proposals fail, because sites can regularly probe for age brackets. If you do this on a regular basis, you can figure out someone's birthday.

                                        E.g. if 12 years is a bracket boundary, the day that age gets attested is the birthday of the kid. Even more likely because someone is more likely to check close after their birthday to unlock some site/functionality.

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                                        • hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.euH hennavirkkunen@ec.social-network.europa.eu

                                          Keeping kids safe online is a top priority.

                                          Today, the Commission has preliminarily found porn platforms Pornhub, Stripchat, XNXX, and XVideos in breach of the Digital Services Act for allowing minors to access adult content.

                                          We’ve also launched investigation into Snapchat under doubts that the platform has failed to adequately protect minors from harmful content, grooming, and illegal products like drugs and vapes. We also suspect that they have failed to verify users age sufficiently.

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                                          Dear @EUCommission and @HennaVirkkunen
                                          Please consider what the world wide community of scientists for computer security and privacy, who are studying the impacts of technology on society, have to say on this topic. They published an open letter, signed by more than 400 scientists in the field, calling for a (temporary) moratorium on age verification online earlier this month:
                                          https://csa-scientist-open-letter.org/ageverif-Feb2026

                                          #technology #ageverification #society #science

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