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  • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

    @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I mean it's your mobility aid, same as someone's wheelchair or someone's dog. If something happens of course you'd panic. that's normal.

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    @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I find it freeing to be able to move through spaces that a cane would hinder me in. Crowds are a big one. The way my dog handled crowds and various obsticles was insanely liberating. When I was training with him we walked through Central Park in New York, that was an experience I'll never forget. Talk about crowds and obsticles and just things to test us.

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    • V vol4life8657@tweesecake.social

      @techsinger @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer But everything has a cost, whether time or currency. Nothing is ever free, and for each day you only have 86800 seconds.

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      techsinger@tweesecake.social
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      @vol4life8657 @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer Oh undoubtedly. I was just thinking of the dollars and cents, not the time and effort. As I said, keeping everything in mind, I think it washes out or that the dog is just a bit more costly, in the most expansive use of the word, than a cane.

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      • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

        @techsinger @vol4life8657 @NicksWorld @Kingslayer Think of it this way, though. Some people enjoy that sort of structure and companionship. The cane is a stick. It doesn't show you love and affection it just sits there.

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        techsinger@tweesecake.social
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        @MariahL @vol4life8657 @NicksWorld @Kingslayer I get that, too.

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        • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

          @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer Yes but I still don't see how its justified.

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          @NicksWorld @techsinger @Kingslayer We saw buskers, tourists, New Yorkers just doing their thing. Other dogs, even the Central Park carriages and horses.

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          • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

            @vol4life8657 @MariahL @NicksWorld @Kingslayer Oh undoubtedly. I was just thinking of the dollars and cents, not the time and effort. As I said, keeping everything in mind, I think it washes out or that the dog is just a bit more costly, in the most expansive use of the word, than a cane.

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            nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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            @techsinger @vol4life8657 @MariahL @Kingslayer Well, we have to pay for cane tips, so that's an on going cost.

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            • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

              @techsinger @vol4life8657 @MariahL @Kingslayer Well, we have to pay for cane tips, so that's an on going cost.

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              mariahl@dragonscave.space
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              @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Everything in life has a cost.

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              • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

                @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Everything in life has a cost.

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                nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                @MariahL @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I agree with you. Nothing in life is free.

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                • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                  @MariahL @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I don't know if its just me but I feel emotionally connected to my cane like, if it brakes and I'm in public, I genuinely panick.

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                  @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer If my computer or hearing aids go down in public I get annoyed, too, though it's not panick. It's just a tool failing, I don't like my tools breaking. I suppose that could be emotion, but it isn't for me, it's just a feeling that I want the tool back. I couldn't keep that emotional distance from a dog, I think.

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                  • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                    @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer If my computer or hearing aids go down in public I get annoyed, too, though it's not panick. It's just a tool failing, I don't like my tools breaking. I suppose that could be emotion, but it isn't for me, it's just a feeling that I want the tool back. I couldn't keep that emotional distance from a dog, I think.

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                    nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                    @techsinger @MariahL @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I see. I don't know, maybe I'm just the weird one.

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                    • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                      @NicksWorld @MariahL @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer If my computer or hearing aids go down in public I get annoyed, too, though it's not panick. It's just a tool failing, I don't like my tools breaking. I suppose that could be emotion, but it isn't for me, it's just a feeling that I want the tool back. I couldn't keep that emotional distance from a dog, I think.

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                      mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                      @techsinger @NicksWorld @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I mean, I don't think it's wrong to be emotionally attached to something that gives you independence. It's scary if something breaks or if something happens to your dog.

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                      • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                        @techsinger @MariahL @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer I see. I don't know, maybe I'm just the weird one.

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                        @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Are you kidding? My dog accidentally got into a bed of fire ants and I was a wreck. He was miserable and I just wanted to fix it.

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                        • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

                          @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Are you kidding? My dog accidentally got into a bed of fire ants and I was a wreck. He was miserable and I just wanted to fix it.

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                          nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                          @MariahL @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Yeah, but your dog is a living animal. That's different.

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                          • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

                            @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Are you kidding? My dog accidentally got into a bed of fire ants and I was a wreck. He was miserable and I just wanted to fix it.

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                            @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer That was a tough time. He was okay, just some swelling around his face but he didn't feel his greatest for 2 days or so. and yes, while it's different, it's disorienting if say your cane breaks. What do you do then. So no I don't think it's weird to panic.

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                            • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                              @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer Yes but I still don't see how its justified.

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                              @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer umm, people don't like being inconvenienced? People don't like extra work, extra fears, all that? They are justified to feel that way, aren't they? Nobody wants to work more than the minimum. That's a justified feeling isn't it? It may well be wrong to feel it, but it's human nature. We bring them extra work. They don't like extra work. The suspicion that we bring them extra work is in fact, true which accounts for the stigma.

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                              • M mariahl@dragonscave.space

                                @NicksWorld @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer That was a tough time. He was okay, just some swelling around his face but he didn't feel his greatest for 2 days or so. and yes, while it's different, it's disorienting if say your cane breaks. What do you do then. So no I don't think it's weird to panic.

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                                nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                @MariahL @techsinger @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer Thanks for the validation.

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                                • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                                  @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer umm, people don't like being inconvenienced? People don't like extra work, extra fears, all that? They are justified to feel that way, aren't they? Nobody wants to work more than the minimum. That's a justified feeling isn't it? It may well be wrong to feel it, but it's human nature. We bring them extra work. They don't like extra work. The suspicion that we bring them extra work is in fact, true which accounts for the stigma.

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                                  @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer That's like saying discrimination is justified. It isn't.

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                                  • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                                    @NicksWorld @MariahL @Kingslayer umm, people don't like being inconvenienced? People don't like extra work, extra fears, all that? They are justified to feel that way, aren't they? Nobody wants to work more than the minimum. That's a justified feeling isn't it? It may well be wrong to feel it, but it's human nature. We bring them extra work. They don't like extra work. The suspicion that we bring them extra work is in fact, true which accounts for the stigma.

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                                    mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                                    @techsinger @NicksWorld @Kingslayer But that's not something a PWD can control. That way of thinking isn't necessarily great.

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                                    • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                      @techsinger @MariahL @Kingslayer That's like saying discrimination is justified. It isn't.

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                                      @NicksWorld @techsinger @Kingslayer Look at it from the other side, our lives are extra work that the average person doesn't have to deal with and will never deal with unless something happens to disable them. It's not our fault that there might be extra work as you say. The stigmas aren't justifiable anymore. It's 2026.

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                                      • N nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me

                                        @techsinger @vol4life8657 @MariahL @Kingslayer Well, we have to pay for cane tips, so that's an on going cost.

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                                        @NicksWorld @vol4life8657 @MariahL @Kingslayer compared to vet bills, food,toys, cleaning, tips are a rounding error, remember. If you do the math over a year, I think it would be under a dollar a day for a tip, and even under $2-3 a day for the occasional broken cane. The dog's food would cost more than that, leaving aside other bills.

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                                        • T techsinger@tweesecake.social

                                          @NicksWorld @vol4life8657 @MariahL @Kingslayer compared to vet bills, food,toys, cleaning, tips are a rounding error, remember. If you do the math over a year, I think it would be under a dollar a day for a tip, and even under $2-3 a day for the occasional broken cane. The dog's food would cost more than that, leaving aside other bills.

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                                          mariahl@dragonscave.space
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                                          @techsinger @NicksWorld @vol4life8657 @Kingslayer That's a cost someone chooses to shoulder. Nothing in life is free, nor will it ever be. If you choose to take on the cost that's on you. If not that's fine too.

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