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  3. New study by the National Bureau of Economic Research: A survey of 6000 CFOs, CEOS throughout US, Europe, UK and Australia comes to the conclusion that businesses predict that "AI" will improve productivity by a whopping 1.4%.

New study by the National Bureau of Economic Research: A survey of 6000 CFOs, CEOS throughout US, Europe, UK and Australia comes to the conclusion that businesses predict that "AI" will improve productivity by a whopping 1.4%.

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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    @q you can check out the results and comments. What do you think the researchers did wrong? Did the CEOs lie?

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    @tante @q this. It's a survey that asked for their opinions (partially). The CEOs and CFOs and other C-suite execs in these surveys surely have no clue what's going on in the daily life of their employees who have to actually work with all the AI stuff. The C-level guys don't even read their own email but have staff summarising them in PowerPoint's. So I'd say the data basis is very thin here...

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    • maxheadroom@hub.uckermark.socialM maxheadroom@hub.uckermark.social

      @tante @q this. It's a survey that asked for their opinions (partially). The CEOs and CFOs and other C-suite execs in these surveys surely have no clue what's going on in the daily life of their employees who have to actually work with all the AI stuff. The C-level guys don't even read their own email but have staff summarising them in PowerPoint's. So I'd say the data basis is very thin here...

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      @maxheadroom @q they do know (at least for the last years) the numbers: How much OpEx and CapEx are there in contrast to revenue. So They can pretty accurately say what happened in the past without knowing who works how

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        @maxheadroom @q they do know (at least for the last years) the numbers: How much OpEx and CapEx are there in contrast to revenue. So They can pretty accurately say what happened in the past without knowing who works how

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        @tante @q I still question their capacity to relate this to AI one way or the other. Nevertheless, the low value of expected increase is still telling. Given the cost and likely increase in opex by all the users.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          New study by the National Bureau of Economic Research: A survey of 6000 CFOs, CEOS throughout US, Europe, UK and Australia comes to the conclusion that businesses predict that "AI" will improve productivity by a whopping 1.4%. Truly earth shattering.

          https://www.nber.org/papers/w34836

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          @tante I'm not really sure why, but the abstract calls this a sizable impact?

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            New study by the National Bureau of Economic Research: A survey of 6000 CFOs, CEOS throughout US, Europe, UK and Australia comes to the conclusion that businesses predict that "AI" will improve productivity by a whopping 1.4%. Truly earth shattering.

            https://www.nber.org/papers/w34836

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            @tante 😴💤.....at a cost of 💲💲🤑💲💲!!

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            • ftranschel@norden.socialF ftranschel@norden.social

              @Amorpheus @tante

              Conspiracies aside: In a bubble market, it *is* possible to transfer wealth even if there is *none* in the long run.

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              @ftranschel @Amorpheus @tante

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              https://www.forbes.com/sites/guneyyildiz/2026/02/14/from-resorts-to-robots-saudi-arabias-100-billion-confession/

              Like a drug cartel using banks, Silicon Valley gets a cut off the top for projects & data centers that will never be completed.

              The goal is to launder cash as fast as possible.
              https://airmail.news/issues/2025-4-5/the-view-from-here

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                @ftranschel @Amorpheus @tante

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                Just a moment...

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                https://www.forbes.com/sites/guneyyildiz/2026/02/14/from-resorts-to-robots-saudi-arabias-100-billion-confession/

                Like a drug cartel using banks, Silicon Valley gets a cut off the top for projects & data centers that will never be completed.

                The goal is to launder cash as fast as possible.
                https://airmail.news/issues/2025-4-5/the-view-from-here

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  New study by the National Bureau of Economic Research: A survey of 6000 CFOs, CEOS throughout US, Europe, UK and Australia comes to the conclusion that businesses predict that "AI" will improve productivity by a whopping 1.4%. Truly earth shattering.

                  https://www.nber.org/papers/w34836

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                  @tante I‘d like to see the same study but outlining the CO2 and wider environmental footprint from it.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    Oh and most companies report no productivity gains in the last 3 years but that cannot surprise anyone by now.

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                    @tante
                    https://fortune.com/2026/02/17/ai-productivity-paradox-ceo-study-robert-solow-information-technology-age/

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                    • maker@woods.secretbearsociety.orgM maker@woods.secretbearsociety.org

                      @tante I remember all those headache inducing non sense conversations with directors, C-something dudes, managers when trying to define "software productivity". No one could agree and, despite all good sense and examples, they mostly stuck to the good old "productivity is how many lines of code are written and software is pushed to prod".

                      None of this includes meaningful software, quality code, user impact, etc. so yes spaghetti code generators will improve a certain definition of productivity

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                      @Maker @tante

                      You get more of what you measure. MBAs love their metrics, regardless of results.

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