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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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    @nixCraft Bye bye Ubuntu. 😑

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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      @nixCraft@mastodon.social

      Wish I could even say "pathway to hell is paved with good intentions," but there are
      zero good intentions behind these efforts. This is all part of an effort to de-anonymize the Internet pushed through the Trojan Horse of "protect children" (haven't heard the other common rubric, "fight terrorism," used for these efforts).

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      • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

        @nixCraft Bye bye Ubuntu. 😑

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        @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

        Uh… Yeah. No. That'll be
        any operating system that has US-based download servers. For example:

        https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-fedora-linux-mint-eye-age-verification-amid-california-law-backlash

        These age and/or identity-verifcation laws are coming to
        lots of countries (EU has similar efforts).

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

          On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

          On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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          @nixCraft

          "Canonical is aware of the legislation and is reviewing it internally with legal counsel, but there are currently no concrete plans on how, or even whether, Ubuntu will change in response.

          The recent mailing list post is an informal conversation among Ubuntu community members, not an announcement."

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          Ubuntu's response to California's Digital Age Assurance Act (AB 1043)

          Over the past couple of days, there has been a lot of commentary about Ubuntu and how it’ll respond to California’s new Digital Age Assurance Act (AB 1043), which will require operating systems to collect age information…

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          • florian@oc.todon.frF florian@oc.todon.fr

            @nixCraft They could probably tie it to the selected country during the installation...

            I'm curious to know how the server OS will behave...

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            @Florian@oc.todon.fr @nixCraft@mastodon.social

            With the fact that age/identity-verification laws are not just a US phenomena and that laws are constantly updating, that would mean keeping a well-maintained mapping-file up to date. "Path of least resistance" is to simply apply it everywhere.

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            • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

              @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

              Uh… Yeah. No. That'll be
              any operating system that has US-based download servers. For example:

              https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-fedora-linux-mint-eye-age-verification-amid-california-law-backlash

              These age and/or identity-verifcation laws are coming to
              lots of countries (EU has similar efforts).

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              @ferricoxide Yup. Watch me swap OS. @nixCraft

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                @nixCraft
                The heck?!
                The fact that you are using Linux isn't age verification enough?!? 😂😂

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                • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                  Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                  On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                  On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                  @nixCraft

                  It appears to be a discussion not an announcement of a decision. Am I missing something? In replies another suggests banningntje use of canonical in those states for example.

                  It is authoritarianism plain and dimple, it is the end of privacy and the first amendment, its a brain implant from Musk.

                  Fuck California Dems. Throw them out at primaries. 1st Amendment Dems, New Deal Dems. Start the removal.

                  Get organised.

                  #linux

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                    @nixCraft Are they planning that, did they really announce that? Or did a discussion about this topic happen on a mailing list?

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                    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                      Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                      @nixCraft utterly pointless because anyone can lie about their age.

                      But then I guess that’s the point. First they make us lie about it. Then they say “too many people are lying about their age so we have to do ID checks” and then it’s “we need to tie the ID check to everything you do online”

                      Meanwhile the actual crooks have run rings round the whole system and stolen someone else’s identity.

                      Result: everyone is less safe but “something was done about the kids looking at pron”

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                        Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                        On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                        On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                        @nixCraft
                        Seriously? Not even gonna try and push back...
                        Fine, roll belly up Ubuntu

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                        • mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @nixCraft I'm shocked that it's not a systemd module

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                          @mms @nixCraft UEFI age verification game has entered the chat

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                            Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                            On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                            @nixCraft cool will remove that crap of my remaining server

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                            • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                              @ferricoxide Yup. Watch me swap OS. @nixCraft

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                              @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                              Ultimately, "swap OS" (to escape it) will mean one of "roll your own distro", use a really obscure distro or run an out-of-date distro.

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                              • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                                @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                                Ultimately, "swap OS" (to escape it) will mean one of "roll your own distro", use a really obscure distro or run an out-of-date distro.

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                                @ferricoxide I shall keep fighting and I shall do what I must for as long as I can, rather than give up/obey in advance like you seem to want me to do. This is wrong. @nixCraft

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                                • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

                                  @nixCraft will this reach downstream Mint?

                                  or upstream Debian (does it still exist?)

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                                  @Sassinake @nixCraft Seeing as if they don't they face $7500 per violation, their hands are tied at this point. People are blaming the developers when they cannot do anything about it. These walking dinosaurs need to be removed from power and replaced with people who actually understand technology and why this is a terrible idea.

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                                  • ingonymous@mastodon.socialI ingonymous@mastodon.social

                                    @nixCraft
                                    The heck?!
                                    The fact that you are using Linux isn't age verification enough?!? 😂😂

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                                    @ingonymous @nixCraft Not anymore, more and more kids are moving to Linux now. My nephew is 10, seen my distro and said he wants that. Will be installing it for him next week lol.

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                                    • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                                      @ferricoxide I shall keep fighting and I shall do what I must for as long as I can, rather than give up/obey in advance like you seem to want me to do. This is wrong. @nixCraft

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                                      @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                                      Much like the evil corporations you think you're fighting, I don't give a fuck what you do. I'm just pointing out that the amount of work you'll need to put in to try to avoid it is likely going to mean that you're going to spend more time maintaining than using …and, that when you do use, you're likely to be cut off from a lot of things at any rate.

                                      You do you. If that's tilting at windmills, be my guest.

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                                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                                        Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                                        On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                                        @nixCraft @lashman fuck Ubuntu

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                                        • ciela@mastodon.ieC ciela@mastodon.ie

                                          @nixCraft @lashman fuck Ubuntu

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                                          @Ciela @nixCraft yes

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