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  • sassinake@mastodon.socialS sassinake@mastodon.social

    @nixCraft will this reach downstream Mint?

    or upstream Debian (does it still exist?)

    noahm@chaos.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Sassinake @nixCraft Debian is discussing it and will likely comply as well.

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    • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

      Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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      @nixCraft every is going to be born on 1/1/1970.

      Problem solved.

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      • docteurslump@ludosphere.frD docteurslump@ludosphere.fr

        @nixCraft every is going to be born on 1/1/1970.

        Problem solved.

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        @docteurslump @nixCraft for now until governments start to stricten and stricten these laws

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        • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

          Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

          On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

          On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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          mistersmee@fedi.mistersmee.ee
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          @nixCraft

          Someone from Canonical clarified this stuff, at least a little bit. They're still looking into the ramifications with the legal team, and the post on the mailing list is that developer's opinion, and not Canonical's official stance.

          Source: https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/ubuntus-response-to-californias-digital-age-assurance-act-ab-1043/77948

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

            On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

            On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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            Here is how they can make it user friendly for those who lives outside those states:

            cat /etc/age-verification.conf
            #Enabled=On|True|1
            #Enabled=Off|False|0

            This needs to be configured at first boot or install time. Please note that the nature of opensource makes it next to impossible to do something like this.

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

              On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

              On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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              @nixCraft I'm shocked that it's not a systemd module

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              • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                Here is how they can make it user friendly for those who lives outside those states:

                cat /etc/age-verification.conf
                #Enabled=On|True|1
                #Enabled=Off|False|0

                This needs to be configured at first boot or install time. Please note that the nature of opensource makes it next to impossible to do something like this.

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                @nixCraft They could probably tie it to the selected country during the installation...

                I'm curious to know how the server OS will behave...

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                  Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                  On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                  On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                  @nixCraft Bye bye Ubuntu. 😑

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                  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                    Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                    @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                    Wish I could even say "pathway to hell is paved with good intentions," but there are
                    zero good intentions behind these efforts. This is all part of an effort to de-anonymize the Internet pushed through the Trojan Horse of "protect children" (haven't heard the other common rubric, "fight terrorism," used for these efforts).

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                    • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                      @nixCraft Bye bye Ubuntu. 😑

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                      @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                      Uh… Yeah. No. That'll be
                      any operating system that has US-based download servers. For example:

                      https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-fedora-linux-mint-eye-age-verification-amid-california-law-backlash

                      These age and/or identity-verifcation laws are coming to
                      lots of countries (EU has similar efforts).

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                      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                        Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                        On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                        On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                        @nixCraft

                        "Canonical is aware of the legislation and is reviewing it internally with legal counsel, but there are currently no concrete plans on how, or even whether, Ubuntu will change in response.

                        The recent mailing list post is an informal conversation among Ubuntu community members, not an announcement."

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                        • florian@oc.todon.frF florian@oc.todon.fr

                          @nixCraft They could probably tie it to the selected country during the installation...

                          I'm curious to know how the server OS will behave...

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                          @Florian@oc.todon.fr @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                          With the fact that age/identity-verification laws are not just a US phenomena and that laws are constantly updating, that would mean keeping a well-maintained mapping-file up to date. "Path of least resistance" is to simply apply it everywhere.

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                          • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

                            @thejessiekirk@ohai.social @nixCraft@mastodon.social

                            Uh… Yeah. No. That'll be
                            any operating system that has US-based download servers. For example:

                            https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-fedora-linux-mint-eye-age-verification-amid-california-law-backlash

                            These age and/or identity-verifcation laws are coming to
                            lots of countries (EU has similar efforts).

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                            @ferricoxide Yup. Watch me swap OS. @nixCraft

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                            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

                              Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                              On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                              On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                              @nixCraft
                              The heck?!
                              The fact that you are using Linux isn't age verification enough?!? 😂😂

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                                Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                                On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                                On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                                @nixCraft

                                It appears to be a discussion not an announcement of a decision. Am I missing something? In replies another suggests banningntje use of canonical in those states for example.

                                It is authoritarianism plain and dimple, it is the end of privacy and the first amendment, its a brain implant from Musk.

                                Fuck California Dems. Throw them out at primaries. 1st Amendment Dems, New Deal Dems. Start the removal.

                                Get organised.

                                #linux

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                                  Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                                  On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                                  @nixCraft Are they planning that, did they really announce that? Or did a discussion about this topic happen on a mailing list?

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                                    Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

                                    On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                                    @nixCraft utterly pointless because anyone can lie about their age.

                                    But then I guess that’s the point. First they make us lie about it. Then they say “too many people are lying about their age so we have to do ID checks” and then it’s “we need to tie the ID check to everything you do online”

                                    Meanwhile the actual crooks have run rings round the whole system and stolen someone else’s identity.

                                    Result: everyone is less safe but “something was done about the kids looking at pron”

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                                      Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

                                      On the unfortunate need for an "age verification" API for legal compliance reasons in some U.S. states

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                                      @nixCraft
                                      Seriously? Not even gonna try and push back...
                                      Fine, roll belly up Ubuntu

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                                      • mms@mastodon.bsd.cafeM mms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @nixCraft I'm shocked that it's not a systemd module

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                                        @mms @nixCraft UEFI age verification game has entered the chat

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                                          Ubuntu Linux is planning to comply with Age Verification law.

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                                          @nixCraft cool will remove that crap of my remaining server

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