So it's not about cars or EVs or jobs.

[chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca]

So it's not about cars or EVs or jobs.
It's just plain old stupid racism, Doug.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/stellantis-plant-brampton-ontario-ev-ford-9.7151265

#Canada #EV #China #Cars #Manufacturing #Jobs #DougFord

[amgine@mamot.fr]

@chris

While Occam's razor agrees, it could also be a simpler conflict of interest: the north american automaker's hegemony against EVs protects the Ford family fortunes.

[jfmezei@cosocial.ca]

@Amgine @chris reading between lines: Ontario car parts manufacturer lobbied Dog Ford against this because the Chinese cars would be assembled without buying car parts from the lobbyist.

[tobiaspatton@cosocial.ca]

@chris the union has been raising some legitimate concerns about the role of Canadian auto-parts supply chain in Chinese EV assembly. I'm not saying that this is reason enough to stop the plan, but it's not unreasonable.

[chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca]

@tobiaspatton I hear that. And as union person I am sensitive to that. But also as a realist, I know that China, and their automakers in particular, have pioneered new manufacturing processes ("dark factories” there was a good CBC report this week) that will inevitably be taken up by all manufacturers. So we can either be part of that now, or later.

[amgine@mamot.fr]

@jfmezei @chris

There is a far greater risk to NAAM than there is to Canada's APMA.

It is also pointless to oppose this in Canada, as Mexico is already retailing and assembling.

But, being egalitarian, I see no reason why **all three** really bad/illogical reasons cannot all be true.

[tobiaspatton@cosocial.ca]

@chris I tend to agree with this stance. But I think we need to look after displaced workers the best we can.

[crispius@mstdn.fname.ca]

@chris
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[chris@socialbc.ca]

@crispius @chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca hahaha

[chris@mstdn.chrisalemany.ca]

@tobiaspatton absolutely. That's generally the missing link and it is why so much bad blood is generated by these transitions.

[amgine@mamot.fr]

@chris @tobiaspatton

One of the key things about assembling in Canada is there are inevitably cost efficiencies which produce local economic activity.

But also - this is all about Stellantis getting out of their contract violation(s) with Ontario and Canada. And that requires a certain number of skilled Canadian employees. Or cash.

[kevinrns@mstdn.social]

@chris

Canadians want choice because monopoly control by American corporations and politicians have made cars too expensive.

Premier Ford is an American corporation and politician.

#onpoli #cdnpoli #byd #evs #ev

[zenheathen@beige.party]

@tobiaspatton But aren't there displaced workers right now? This plant is sitting idle. If they spin it up again, there are jobs. @chris