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If you think "I can't study nature where I live.

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  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

    @datarama @twizzt

    I tend to think the hymenopterans are "in charge" but not enough people listen to me when I explain this.

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    @futurebird @datarama this could be a fascinating lecture or even full semester seminar. God may have had an inordinate fondness for beetles, but for every species, he gave it its own parasitic wasp to keep it in check. I would say god hated beetles.... And all other arthropods for that matter.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @twizzt

      Now... I am glad that I have seen the wasp, but I have so many questions. Roaches don't just lay their eggs and leave them laying around. No, they make a little packet called an ootheca and to keep it safe a female roach will drag this around with her (it contains 15-60 eggs!) until it's just ready to hatch. So these wasps must land on the female roaches? How does it all go down?

      You see? Nature is everywhere!

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      @futurebird I was actually trying to find info on this the other day. The only tool I had at hand was Google so I came up empty. These walls are huge for egg parasitoids too so do they eat most of all the eggs?

      Being in a country that doesn't care about copyright, I have a hard time not just stealing papers so I can read about these things.

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        @twizzt

        Urban ecology can be a little gross, but all ecologies are gross when you look into it. There is also heroism, great battles and wars are all around you. But you need to tune in to the most common living things in your area first and learn their names and how they live.

        By the way this parasitoid wasp? It's a lovely creature. It has dark blue eyes and a waist that'd make a fashion house jealous.

        Someone should make a dress based on this wasp. It would win awards.

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        @futurebird I love one of it's common names too. The ensign wasp. It's like a flag girl. Their search flights and mannerisms are very interesting and unique too. Jet black, dazzling blue eyes... Such an important and beautiful creature.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          If you think "I can't study nature where I live. There is no nature here." there is another way to look at this.

          First you are wrong. There is nature everywhere.

          But you can think of your anthropocene environment as "easy mode" you won't be overwhelmed with species, you just need to start by learning the big players.

          Just last week @twizzt told me about Evania appendigaster which is a wasp that lays it's eggs in the eggs of roaches. I spot it by the rail-road overpass the next day!

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          @futurebird also, read never home alone. It's a great book and eye opening. The nature inside your own domicile is vast and abundant!

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          • twizzt@sauropods.winT twizzt@sauropods.win

            @futurebird I love one of it's common names too. The ensign wasp. It's like a flag girl. Their search flights and mannerisms are very interesting and unique too. Jet black, dazzling blue eyes... Such an important and beautiful creature.

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            @twizzt @futurebird I am in good company. Evanid wasps have some of the most beautiful blue eyes on any animal.

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            • ubi@ecoevo.socialU ubi@ecoevo.social

              @twizzt @futurebird I am in good company. Evanid wasps have some of the most beautiful blue eyes on any animal.

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              @ubi @futurebird in Sri Lanka, they are just black. Unfortunate

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              • twizzt@sauropods.winT twizzt@sauropods.win

                @ubi @futurebird in Sri Lanka, they are just black. Unfortunate

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                @twizzt @futurebird I've never seen a black eyed evanid, that must be a good character to differentiate species.

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                • ubi@ecoevo.socialU ubi@ecoevo.social

                  @twizzt @futurebird I've never seen a black eyed evanid, that must be a good character to differentiate species.

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                  @ubi @futurebird I just threw one in the trash as it was smashed. I seen not to have a single observation on iNat. Very odd. I see them regularly

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                  • twizzt@sauropods.winT twizzt@sauropods.win

                    @futurebird I was actually trying to find info on this the other day. The only tool I had at hand was Google so I came up empty. These walls are huge for egg parasitoids too so do they eat most of all the eggs?

                    Being in a country that doesn't care about copyright, I have a hard time not just stealing papers so I can read about these things.

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                    @twizzt

                    I have learned that some roaches *do* just leave their ootheca laying around. And these wasps can find them? How? Can they smell them? That seems like a trick worth learning if you wanted to do low impact pest control...

                    In fact, the roaches that carry them around do so *because of these wasps*

                    It's an arms race!

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @twizzt

                      Urban ecology can be a little gross, but all ecologies are gross when you look into it. There is also heroism, great battles and wars are all around you. But you need to tune in to the most common living things in your area first and learn their names and how they live.

                      By the way this parasitoid wasp? It's a lovely creature. It has dark blue eyes and a waist that'd make a fashion house jealous.

                      Someone should make a dress based on this wasp. It would win awards.

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                      @futurebird @twizzt Tangential question: why do wasps have such narrow waists? (Or do they?)

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                      • michaelgemar@cosocial.caM michaelgemar@cosocial.ca

                        @futurebird @twizzt Tangential question: why do wasps have such narrow waists? (Or do they?)

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                        @michaelgemar @twizzt

                        The big hymenopteran innovation is the ovipositor, which is also a stinger in some cases.

                        What makes it powerful is the precision that wasps, bees and ants have with their sting or eggs.

                        The thin flexible waist makes this possible.

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                        • twizzt@sauropods.winT twizzt@sauropods.win

                          @futurebird I was actually trying to find info on this the other day. The only tool I had at hand was Google so I came up empty. These walls are huge for egg parasitoids too so do they eat most of all the eggs?

                          Being in a country that doesn't care about copyright, I have a hard time not just stealing papers so I can read about these things.

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                          @twizzt @futurebird if you contact the author they will often send you the “preprint” version of the article for free. They own it, don’t make money (the publisher does), and they just want to do science and get read

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                          • gavinchait@wandering.shopG gavinchait@wandering.shop

                            @futurebird @twizzt there was a great book I had as a kid by Gerald Durrel called The Amateur Naturalist in which he went chapter by chapter showing you how to find interesting biomes just outside your front door. Was an amazing thing for a kid to encourage exploration.

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                            @GavinChait @futurebird @twizzt Ever watch the show about his family? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Durrells

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              @twizzt

                              I have learned that some roaches *do* just leave their ootheca laying around. And these wasps can find them? How? Can they smell them? That seems like a trick worth learning if you wanted to do low impact pest control...

                              In fact, the roaches that carry them around do so *because of these wasps*

                              It's an arms race!

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                              @twizzt

                              I have this running fantasy of somehow injecting myself into the high end purse design industry, and making a purse that costs like 5k and getting all the right people to be seen with it but it looks *exactly* like a roach ootheca.

                              Kind of long game for a joke... but it would be SO worth it to see celebrities carrying giant egg sacs on the red carpet!

                              Who will help me? We deserve this.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @twizzt

                                I have this running fantasy of somehow injecting myself into the high end purse design industry, and making a purse that costs like 5k and getting all the right people to be seen with it but it looks *exactly* like a roach ootheca.

                                Kind of long game for a joke... but it would be SO worth it to see celebrities carrying giant egg sacs on the red carpet!

                                Who will help me? We deserve this.

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                                @futurebird @twizzt
                                So I just had to look it up, you know, a new word for me.

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                                • paulwermer@sfba.socialP paulwermer@sfba.social

                                  @futurebird @twizzt
                                  So I just had to look it up, you know, a new word for me.

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                                  Ootheca - Wikipedia

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                                  (en.wikipedia.org)

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                                  @PaulWermer @twizzt

                                  That image is one for praying mantis... I don't think it'd work as a fashion item.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    @PaulWermer @twizzt

                                    That image is one for praying mantis... I don't think it'd work as a fashion item.

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                                    @futurebird @twizzt they had roaches farther down.

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                                    • paulwermer@sfba.socialP paulwermer@sfba.social

                                      @futurebird @twizzt they had roaches farther down.

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                                      @PaulWermer @twizzt

                                      It could work! Do you see the vision?

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @twizzt

                                        I have this running fantasy of somehow injecting myself into the high end purse design industry, and making a purse that costs like 5k and getting all the right people to be seen with it but it looks *exactly* like a roach ootheca.

                                        Kind of long game for a joke... but it would be SO worth it to see celebrities carrying giant egg sacs on the red carpet!

                                        Who will help me? We deserve this.

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                                        @futurebird @twizzt

                                        I can hear the ad campaign now (B-52's):

                                        "Egg Sack, baby, Egg Sack!

                                        That's where it's at! The Egg Sack.

                                        Stand right there in the middle of the room
                                        All eyes on you with your Egg Sack, baby!"

                                        Montage of fiendishly, beautifully, hip people walking around quirky neighborhoods with their egg sacs.

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                                        • seanplynch@mastodon.socialS seanplynch@mastodon.social

                                          @futurebird @twizzt

                                          I can hear the ad campaign now (B-52's):

                                          "Egg Sack, baby, Egg Sack!

                                          That's where it's at! The Egg Sack.

                                          Stand right there in the middle of the room
                                          All eyes on you with your Egg Sack, baby!"

                                          Montage of fiendishly, beautifully, hip people walking around quirky neighborhoods with their egg sacs.

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                                          @SeanPLynch @twizzt

                                          "It's not just a bag, it's a CLUTCH (of eggs)"

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