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“Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.”

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  • thetyee@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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    “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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    unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU waitingforthesign@mstdn.caW jfmezei@cosocial.caJ gordarnit@union.placeG 5 Replies Last reply
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    • thetyee@mstdn.caT thetyee@mstdn.ca

      “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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      Really good article - thank you!

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      • thetyee@mstdn.caT thetyee@mstdn.ca

        “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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        waitingforthesign@mstdn.caW This user is from outside of this forum
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        I object to placing the responsibility of the covid disaster on the public. The majority of the public wore masks, distanced and vaccinated. They remembered sars1, dengue, norberg, cholera, ebola, all since 2000. The failure came from governments acceding to the demands of business to remain open and the ability to fly. Air travel was responsible for global spread within weeks. They should have been shutdown when covid was discovered. Governments could have stepped in following their own pandemic policy established after Sars1, their response was PSA's. Business on the other hand lobbied the governments and funded the Anti movement. The public is all to aware of the costs in lives and long term afflictions and this isn't on them. It's on the 1%!

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          I object to placing the responsibility of the covid disaster on the public. The majority of the public wore masks, distanced and vaccinated. They remembered sars1, dengue, norberg, cholera, ebola, all since 2000. The failure came from governments acceding to the demands of business to remain open and the ability to fly. Air travel was responsible for global spread within weeks. They should have been shutdown when covid was discovered. Governments could have stepped in following their own pandemic policy established after Sars1, their response was PSA's. Business on the other hand lobbied the governments and funded the Anti movement. The public is all to aware of the costs in lives and long term afflictions and this isn't on them. It's on the 1%!

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          @WaitingForTheSign @thetyee hard to refute any of that. Capitalism no good when it comes to sensible environmental policies or pandemic response. Could probably call this the start of a long list!

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          • thetyee@mstdn.caT thetyee@mstdn.ca

            “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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            @thetyee When Sars-CoV2 was analysed, it appearsto be similar to SARS-1 whose lifetime while in air was very limited. (ceases to be active when droplet evaporates). So recommendations on COVID were based on that (2m distancing, wash hands etc).

            It was in April, during a press conference that CDC issued new evidence that the virus survived in the air far longer, hence needs for masks etc. But nobody saw this because the media who focused on Trump highjacking presser it with bleach/bright light

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            • thetyee@mstdn.caT thetyee@mstdn.ca

              “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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              @thetyee You used the correct word "airborne". But Many tried to push "aerosol" which is incorrect. WHO explained the difference. Aerosol are droplets smaller than a certain size which are rarely exhaled by humans. Droplets are larger than that size but small enough that can still remain suspended in air.

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              • thetyee@mstdn.caT thetyee@mstdn.ca

                “Here we are, six years after every province and territory in Canada declared states of emergency because of #COVID19, and yet we have not learned basic lessons from the pandemic.” 🦠

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                @thetyee New Year's day 2020 my email had an update from a Google Alerts I set to report on "Virus outbreak". These were the first reports from Wuhan about something circulating at a wet market in the city. I forwarded it to my daughter saying it looked like something had jumped from animal to human and that if it was airborne we were in a lot of trouble. And then it was airborne although as the article says this wasn't explained to people. Next time we will be no better prepared.

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                  @WaitingForTheSign @thetyee hard to refute any of that. Capitalism no good when it comes to sensible environmental policies or pandemic response. Could probably call this the start of a long list!

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                  @mikesaul@climatejustice.social Couldn't agree more.
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