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Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me.

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  • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

    Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me. Everyone is telling children that they're cis, repeatedly, hard, insistently, like a chorus of total negation. If a kid manages to figure out that they're trans in spite of every fucking thing in the world telling them they aren't trans, it wasn't because someone told them they were trans. The most they likely ever heard, and it's not all that likely, is that it's okay to be trans.

    But you know that already. You don't want anyone to stop telling children they're trans, because no one does that. What you want is for it not to be okay to be trans.

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    No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

    I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

    But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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      No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

      I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

      But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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      @YouShallNotPass

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      • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

        Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me. Everyone is telling children that they're cis, repeatedly, hard, insistently, like a chorus of total negation. If a kid manages to figure out that they're trans in spite of every fucking thing in the world telling them they aren't trans, it wasn't because someone told them they were trans. The most they likely ever heard, and it's not all that likely, is that it's okay to be trans.

        But you know that already. You don't want anyone to stop telling children they're trans, because no one does that. What you want is for it not to be okay to be trans.

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        @YouShallNotPass I'm sorry you had to go through that, and that as a society we're still putting people through that. 🫂

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        • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

          No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

          I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

          But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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          @YouShallNotPass This, so much this.

          My first exposure to transness was characters in Bollywood movies who were child kidnappers or just bad/villainous people, and that really fucked up my worldview for quite some time.

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            No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

            I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

            But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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            @YouShallNotPass

            Oh yeah. When i as growing up trans people were only ever trotted out on daytime talk shows as freaks to be laughed at. i remember the information desert that kept me from knowing what i was until i was 19

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              No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

              I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

              But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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              @YouShallNotPass I want to live in a world where loving my trans stepkids isn’t a radical act. But also, I’m okay with being a radical when necessary.

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              • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

                Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me. Everyone is telling children that they're cis, repeatedly, hard, insistently, like a chorus of total negation. If a kid manages to figure out that they're trans in spite of every fucking thing in the world telling them they aren't trans, it wasn't because someone told them they were trans. The most they likely ever heard, and it's not all that likely, is that it's okay to be trans.

                But you know that already. You don't want anyone to stop telling children they're trans, because no one does that. What you want is for it not to be okay to be trans.

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                @YouShallNotPass And of course most of the same people also want it not to be ok to be even a little gender nonconforming without being trans, so what they're ultimately pushing for is no individuality and rigid conformity to assigned roles in the farce that is the patriarchy.

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                • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

                  Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me. Everyone is telling children that they're cis, repeatedly, hard, insistently, like a chorus of total negation. If a kid manages to figure out that they're trans in spite of every fucking thing in the world telling them they aren't trans, it wasn't because someone told them they were trans. The most they likely ever heard, and it's not all that likely, is that it's okay to be trans.

                  But you know that already. You don't want anyone to stop telling children they're trans, because no one does that. What you want is for it not to be okay to be trans.

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                  @YouShallNotPass I think these are the same people as the ones who insist that I was forcibly converted to Islam back when I was in the seventh grade because they couldn't handle the fact that religions other than their particular flavor or Baptism exist.
                  They also believe I've been murdered at least 17 times. So yeah, not exactly the best grip on reality.

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                  • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

                    No one told me I was trans. I wish someone had told me when I was young enough for it to have mattered. And the message I got from society certainly wasn't, "You might possibly be trans." It was, "Yes, there are a few trans people and they are freaks and jokes and you can't possibly be trans."

                    I hope that might have improved a little. I think some kids get a more balanced message, like, "There are trans people and that's okay." (That's slightly sarcastic.) Hell, "Trans people are freaks and jokes," is still an improvement over, "There are no trans people."

                    But sweet fuck, statistically speaking, no one is telling kids, "You are trans." No one is even telling them, "You might be trans." That's a made-up fear. But again, the people who made it up know that.

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                    @YouShallNotPass what I would give to have had someone tell me I was trans.

                    The time I could have had... The love I could have shown myself...

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                    • properlypurple@tech.lgbtP properlypurple@tech.lgbt

                      @YouShallNotPass This, so much this.

                      My first exposure to transness was characters in Bollywood movies who were child kidnappers or just bad/villainous people, and that really fucked up my worldview for quite some time.

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                      @properlypurple
                      Yeah, mine was trans people on daytime talk shows who were all made out to be freaks. Society doesn't like us. I'm sorry you had to go through that 😞❤️

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                      • grace@social.lolG grace@social.lol

                        @YouShallNotPass what I would give to have had someone tell me I was trans.

                        The time I could have had... The love I could have shown myself...

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                        @grace
                        Yes. Very much this. But I hope you're able to show yourself a little love now ❤️

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                        • moriel@chaosfem.twM moriel@chaosfem.tw

                          @YouShallNotPass

                          Oh yeah. When i as growing up trans people were only ever trotted out on daytime talk shows as freaks to be laughed at. i remember the information desert that kept me from knowing what i was until i was 19

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                          @moriel
                          Me too. That and Ace Ventura. Ugh.

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                            @YouShallNotPass And of course most of the same people also want it not to be ok to be even a little gender nonconforming without being trans, so what they're ultimately pushing for is no individuality and rigid conformity to assigned roles in the farce that is the patriarchy.

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                            @PedestrianError
                            Let's be honest, a lot of people who are pushing this want it not to be okay to be anything but a cishet white man. Yes, maybe cishet white women have to exist for them, but they still want those women to be not okay.

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                            • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

                              @grace
                              Yes. Very much this. But I hope you're able to show yourself a little love now ❤️

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                              @YouShallNotPass thanks! It is a journey but I'm getting there. 🤗

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                              • grace@social.lolG grace@social.lol

                                @YouShallNotPass what I would give to have had someone tell me I was trans.

                                The time I could have had... The love I could have shown myself...

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                                @grace @YouShallNotPass I'm going through this now at 57, exploring and realizing I might be/probably am trans. There were so many clues when I was, say, 6 to 14, that are coming back to mind.

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                                • naga@toot.catN naga@toot.cat

                                  @grace @YouShallNotPass I'm going through this now at 57, exploring and realizing I might be/probably am trans. There were so many clues when I was, say, 6 to 14, that are coming back to mind.

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                                  @naga @YouShallNotPass same!!

                                  I'm 43 and just getting started. I didn't realize that most men didn't feel like a stranger around men or that you were just trapped in a meat suit.

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                                  • grace@social.lolG grace@social.lol

                                    @naga @YouShallNotPass same!!

                                    I'm 43 and just getting started. I didn't realize that most men didn't feel like a stranger around men or that you were just trapped in a meat suit.

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                                    @grace @naga
                                    There are usually so many signs once you know what you look for. Try not to beat yourself up about it though. No one told you what you look for.

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                                    • grace@social.lolG grace@social.lol

                                      @naga @YouShallNotPass same!!

                                      I'm 43 and just getting started. I didn't realize that most men didn't feel like a stranger around men or that you were just trapped in a meat suit.

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                                      @grace @YouShallNotPass I remember first grade and wishing I were a girl because I didn't like the way boys acted and didn't want to have to hang out with them or conform to the expectations of how boys act.

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                                      • naga@toot.catN naga@toot.cat

                                        @grace @YouShallNotPass I remember first grade and wishing I were a girl because I didn't like the way boys acted and didn't want to have to hang out with them or conform to the expectations of how boys act.

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                                        @grace @YouShallNotPass And it still took another 50 years ... the last few of which I'd already taken to wearing skirts.

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                                        • youshallnotpass@chaosfem.twY youshallnotpass@chaosfem.tw

                                          Oh honey, no one is telling children they're trans. Trust me. Everyone is telling children that they're cis, repeatedly, hard, insistently, like a chorus of total negation. If a kid manages to figure out that they're trans in spite of every fucking thing in the world telling them they aren't trans, it wasn't because someone told them they were trans. The most they likely ever heard, and it's not all that likely, is that it's okay to be trans.

                                          But you know that already. You don't want anyone to stop telling children they're trans, because no one does that. What you want is for it not to be okay to be trans.

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                                          Not something that should ever be relevant until puberty.

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