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  3. My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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  • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

    My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

    waltman@hachyderm.ioW This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ryanc @xabean Are there still Linux problems which are *not* proximate to systemd anymore?

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    • waltman@hachyderm.ioW waltman@hachyderm.io

      @ryanc @xabean Are there still Linux problems which are *not* proximate to systemd anymore?

      david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @waltman @ryanc @xabean

      Some are caused by his other projects.

      I think he’s probably responsible for more people switching to FreeBSD than any other individual.

      moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM vonxylofon@witter.czV gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD 4 Replies Last reply
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      • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

        My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

        bruce@darkmoon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #6

        @ryanc
        Why stop there? It's probably his fault when a stop light malfunctions and creates a traffic jam that makes you late to work.

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        • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

          My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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          @ryanc isn’t that Fedi’s collective hobby?

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          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

            @waltman @ryanc @xabean

            Some are caused by his other projects.

            I think he’s probably responsible for more people switching to FreeBSD than any other individual.

            moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @david_chisnall @waltman @ryanc @xabean
            Counting the days until the people who make "disable Windows 11 AI"-scripts produce their own NetBSD distro with preloaded Wine.
            (packages an older version of Wine, but was the first OS that said no to slopcode)
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            • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

              My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

              charlotte@akko.chir.rsC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ryanc is lennart poettering the todd howard of linux?

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              • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                @ryanc likewise. and I always raise my fist in anger while yelling "poetteriiiing!!" like some saturday morning cartoon villian 😆

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                • bruce@darkmoon.socialB bruce@darkmoon.social

                  @ryanc
                  Why stop there? It's probably his fault when a stop light malfunctions and creates a traffic jam that makes you late to work.

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                  @ryanc

                  Narrator: the traffic light controller runs embedded Linux and uses systemd

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                  • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                    My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                    @ryanc I need to print up a "Lennart Poettering broke my car" T shirt.

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                    • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                      My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

                      scy@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ryanc So, bullying. Your hobby is bullying.

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                      • scy@chaos.socialS scy@chaos.social

                        @ryanc So, bullying. Your hobby is bullying.

                        ryanc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @scy You clearly have a very different definition of "bullying" than I do.

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                        • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                          @waltman @ryanc @xabean

                          Some are caused by his other projects.

                          I think he’s probably responsible for more people switching to FreeBSD than any other individual.

                          vonxylofon@witter.czV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @david_chisnall @waltman @ryanc @xabean The Thomas Midgley of Linux.

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                          • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                            My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                            @ryanc ::likes and subscribes::

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                            • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                              My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                              @ryanc Today I learned how to deal with userland services in a system on sysvinit (or anything init really) because screw all that.

                              I can still say it's Poettering's fault because guess why I'm having to switch to sysvinit? It wasn't just because I randomly wanted to see what it would be like...

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                              • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                                My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                                @ryanc Truly the Theresa May of GNU/Linux

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                                • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                                  My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                                  @ryanc

                                  SystemD gave my cat fleas

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                                  • vonxylofon@witter.czV vonxylofon@witter.cz

                                    @david_chisnall @waltman @ryanc @xabean The Thomas Midgley of Linux.

                                    ryanc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @vonxylofon @david_chisnall @waltman @xabean that is an incredible burn

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                                    • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                                      My hobby: randomly blaming Lennart Poettering for any Linux problems I have, regardless of systemd proximity.

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                                      @ryanc And PulseAudio ...

                                      I approve of you hobby.

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                                      • nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social

                                        @ryanc Today I learned how to deal with userland services in a system on sysvinit (or anything init really) because screw all that.

                                        I can still say it's Poettering's fault because guess why I'm having to switch to sysvinit? It wasn't just because I randomly wanted to see what it would be like...

                                        ryanc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @nazokiyoubinbou consider runit

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                                        • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                                          @nazokiyoubinbou consider runit

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                                          @ryanc I mean, if I had a choice I'd lean towards OpenRC, but right now I need the least effort thing closest to a base distro, which is probably MX Linux which lets you choose sysvinit and has a lot of stuff (like Pipewire-Pulse) fixed to work with it.

                                          But really, the biggest problem is just distros in general need to stop relying on systemd. Like even if they continue to use it, packages shouldn't be built to explicitly call it a dependency, should also support init, etc. That seems basic, but it just doesn't even occur to most to do such a minimal thing. So if one switches from systemd, a lot of stuff uninstalls and/or breaks on most distros.

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