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Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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    Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

    #EvanPoll #poll

    promovicz@chaos.socialP astro@c3d2.socialA tursiops@tooting.chT tassoman@orwell.funT badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB 7 Replies Last reply
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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

      #EvanPoll #poll

      promovicz@chaos.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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      @evan Yes, but as a long-time hacker I keep thinking of issues like "international waters". It should not be in the interest of the Fedi, to clarify sovereignty over the whole network. Exceptions should be accepted/respected (if they are benign).

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        @witchescauldron @evan This makes me want to take a good hard look at the term social media.

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

          #EvanPoll #poll

          astro@c3d2.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          @evan "Yes" without a "but" this time!

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

            #EvanPoll #poll

            tursiops@tooting.chT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @evan as the admin of tooting.ch and president of FairSocialNet non profit I very much agree with the fact the social network sovereignty is not only important but crucial.

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            • tursiops@tooting.chT tursiops@tooting.ch

              @evan as the admin of tooting.ch and president of FairSocialNet non profit I very much agree with the fact the social network sovereignty is not only important but crucial.

              evan@cosocial.caE This user is from outside of this forum
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              @tursiops 🙏🏼

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

                #EvanPoll #poll

                tassoman@orwell.funT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @evan@cosocial.ca yes, but software should be developed by own country developers
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                • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

                  @witchescauldron @evan This makes me want to take a good hard look at the term social media.

                  hamishcampbell@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Epic_Null @witchescauldron @evan

                  Yes, the #openweb in inherently social as its sites linking to sites, so, the term is an overlay from the #dotcons - its very much not clear what value this term brings when we try and scale horizontally rather than vertically. So in this sense its more compost to shovel. But for meany people here vertical scaling dose matter so for them, it's useful?!

                  We currently do not attempt to bridge this divide.

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                  • hamishcampbell@mastodon.socialH hamishcampbell@mastodon.social

                    @Epic_Null @witchescauldron @evan

                    Yes, the #openweb in inherently social as its sites linking to sites, so, the term is an overlay from the #dotcons - its very much not clear what value this term brings when we try and scale horizontally rather than vertically. So in this sense its more compost to shovel. But for meany people here vertical scaling dose matter so for them, it's useful?!

                    We currently do not attempt to bridge this divide.

                    epic_null@infosec.exchangeE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @hamishcampbell @witchescauldron @evan It's a good point, it I have this vauge feeling like a key piece of information is still missing from the conversation around social media, and around the adoption of the term itself ...

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

                      badrihippo@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @evan yes, but we shouldn't stop at the level of (or ideally skip even trying to fit) the level of "countries" and instead let there be sovereignty all the down to smaller organisations and individual humans

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

                        #EvanPoll #poll

                        mark_harbinger@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @evan

                        'Just asking questions', I see...

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          Is digital sovereignty in social networks important?

                          #EvanPoll #poll

                          faraiwe@mstdn.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @evan who the hell are the 4% saying "no" or "no, but" ???? Are those bridgy interlopers in the fediverse, or what??

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                            @evan who the hell are the 4% saying "no" or "no, but" ???? Are those bridgy interlopers in the fediverse, or what??

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                            @faraiwe @evan I can answer that - it's because it's a meaningless or at best confusing term that shares almost no characteristics of *actual* sovereignty. We should resist such platitudes and come up with unique concepts for the context or environment. At worst it's a self-congratulatory buzzword designed to make people feel important.

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