People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown.
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@CiaraNi it’s the same with text. On Reddit, when you write a coherent comment or deeper analysis, people will accuse you of using AI.
@RalphBassfeld Yes, deeper and longer text attracts questions now, thanks to all the unnecessarily wordy AI slop being generated. It's a difficult one. The use and abuse of AI means we have credible reason to doubt incredible content. We question a text or photo. If it's not AI, then we have 'accused' someone unfairly. If it is AI, then we have 'exposed' deceit fairly. We can't know which until we pose the question.
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@RalphBassfeld Yes, deeper and longer text attracts questions now, thanks to all the unnecessarily wordy AI slop being generated. It's a difficult one. The use and abuse of AI means we have credible reason to doubt incredible content. We question a text or photo. If it's not AI, then we have 'accused' someone unfairly. If it is AI, then we have 'exposed' deceit fairly. We can't know which until we pose the question.
@CiaraNi I know of recruiters who are thinking of changing the recruiting process because most CVs and motivation letters are all written by AI nowadays
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@CiaraNi not that I don’t believe you, since it did seem a bit far fetched, but provenance link on the analysis it’s A.I. generated?
And yes, people sharing fair stuff is depressing. Why do people do this? I don’t get it.
@awws I blocked it, but if you have access, there's more information in replies in the thread.
Edited to add: If I was wrong and it is a real photo with a verified source and photographer, please let me know so that I can correct my original toot.
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@GOKUSHRM I hope we don't get to the stage of normalising AI use and AI deception as acceptable or 'that's just the way it is, whatcha gonna do' though.
@CiaraNi I don't have issue with those using AI. The only thing is if someone using ai thn pls admit it. That's all.
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@CiaraNi I know of recruiters who are thinking of changing the recruiting process because most CVs and motivation letters are all written by AI nowadays
@RalphBassfeld I've heard of this too, and similar situations in other industries and jobs. The amount of human time wasted on either end of all this AI-generated slop and nonsense is terrible.
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@CiaraNi we should report the post and hopefully it will get taken down!
@elduvelle It came by my timeline a few times with ever-increasing numbers of people in the replies flagging it as fake. The poster didn't respond. I looked at her timeline and she seems to post lots of images that don't seem to be her own work and at least some seem to be AI-generated. So I just blocked her.
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@CiaraNi I don't have issue with those using AI. The only thing is if someone using ai thn pls admit it. That's all.
@GOKUSHRM Agreed, that people should clearly flag AI-generated content as AI. We'll have to agree to disagree on the use of GAI in the first place. I choose not to use it voluntarily because I think it's unethical and unenvironmental.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi I noticed this most quickly in the weird sections of Pinterest and YouTube, content on yetis, aliens and skeletons of giants became absolutely saturated by AI within what seemed only months. Appreciate that wasn't a highly integral area of photography even before AI, but still, in the last couple years it's been effectively killed off entirely.
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@CiaraNi not that I don’t believe you, since it did seem a bit far fetched, but provenance link on the analysis it’s A.I. generated?
And yes, people sharing fair stuff is depressing. Why do people do this? I don’t get it.
@awws @CiaraNi In this case it's mostly the other way round: The provenance trying to show that it's not A.I. was wrong. The instance I saw attributed it to a pair of photographers who actually do take these kind of bird photos. But misspelled his name. And it wasn't on the Facebook feed claimed to be from. And on photos he puts out, he embeds his logo. He's also relatively well-known. The chances of him taking *that* photo and not publishing it wide and proud with his branding are … slim.
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@GOKUSHRM Agreed, that people should clearly flag AI-generated content as AI. We'll have to agree to disagree on the use of GAI in the first place. I choose not to use it voluntarily because I think it's unethical and unenvironmental.
@CiaraNi yup.. Everyone is there free to use whatever thay what to use, but atleast admit it clearly that we are using ai or anything.
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@CiaraNi yup.. Everyone is there free to use whatever thay what to use, but atleast admit it clearly that we are using ai or anything.
@GOKUSHRM Yes, agreed!
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@awws @CiaraNi In this case it's mostly the other way round: The provenance trying to show that it's not A.I. was wrong. The instance I saw attributed it to a pair of photographers who actually do take these kind of bird photos. But misspelled his name. And it wasn't on the Facebook feed claimed to be from. And on photos he puts out, he embeds his logo. He's also relatively well-known. The chances of him taking *that* photo and not publishing it wide and proud with his branding are … slim.
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@CiaraNi I noticed this most quickly in the weird sections of Pinterest and YouTube, content on yetis, aliens and skeletons of giants became absolutely saturated by AI within what seemed only months. Appreciate that wasn't a highly integral area of photography even before AI, but still, in the last couple years it's been effectively killed off entirely.
@TenPastTwo It's depressing! I am thinking back almost fondly to the not-long-ago days when a deceptive photo would have required actual Photoshop skills and visual artistry. Only a minority of people had access to a photo-editing program that was processional enough. Of them, only a minority had the skills to meddle with an image so well that other people wondered: 'is it real or not?' Generative AI is an entirely different problem, both the scale of the technology and the abuse of it.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi I'm usually good at spotting AI, but that one looked so real.
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@awws @CiaraNi In this case it's mostly the other way round: The provenance trying to show that it's not A.I. was wrong. The instance I saw attributed it to a pair of photographers who actually do take these kind of bird photos. But misspelled his name. And it wasn't on the Facebook feed claimed to be from. And on photos he puts out, he embeds his logo. He's also relatively well-known. The chances of him taking *that* photo and not publishing it wide and proud with his branding are … slim.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
Search and social media companies selling your personal data is distressing. Politicians lying without repercussions. CEOs making fat bonuses at the detriment of the people they lead.
Industrial scale exploitation of the social fabric seems to be the way to get rich. If we let this continue, it will exhaust the social fabric and our civilization will come to a violent end.
I hope more people become aware
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@CiaraNi I'm usually good at spotting AI, but that one looked so real.
@VerenaRupp Agreed, it did look very real, from a technical point of view.
Please let me know if I am wrong about it being AI or an otherwise manipulated image. If it really is a real photo of a real water crown on a real bird, I want to correct my toot! (All this uncertainty in itself is part of the whole frustrating problem.)
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It's not, of course, generative AI that's deceiving people. It's the humans using AI to generate fake images and the humans who pass the fake images off as their own photos who are deceiving other humans.
A few people have questioned whether I am right to say that the image of a drop of water bursting on a bird's head like a crown actually is AI-generated. They think I may be wrong. That it is not faked. That it is real.
If I'm wrong, if it really is an unmanipulated photo by a verified human photographer, please do let me know so that I can correct myself and my toot.
(All this uncertainty is part of the whole problem. We all spend so much human time & energy trying to act in good faith.)
