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Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months.

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  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

    Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

    He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

    Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

    #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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    @aral Betting on disaster to stop them is an illusion; the capital and systems that have tasted the machine's efficiency in erasure and profit will not back down, but will treat victims and software errors as an "acceptable cost" of dominance. When human skill and responsibility fall, humanity falls first💔😔🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️

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    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mathew @dkl This.

      By “catastrophic” he meant something that causes people to die, etc. (Medical systems, etc.)

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        @chopsstephens Yep.

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          @violetmadder @chopsstephens Sure looks that way.

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          • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

            @aral I heard a talk from someone, who said something similar, some months back. I'm worried

            webhat (@webhat@infosec.exchange)

            OH: I've shipped code to production without understanding what it does, I'm sure we all have, I look at it and ship it No, I haven't. And why would you even look at it? Vibe check?

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            @webhat @aral as someone who used to administer systems, this shit scares the crap out of me. I'm no dev, but I've supported many many devs in my life.

            I used to be able to say to lead devs "this is happening, and this is the error" and they'd almost know why. I don't even think that's possible now

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              @chopsstephens @aral Yep.

              Greenfield is easy.

              Upgrades and significant modification...not so much.

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              • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                #AI #microsoft #LLMs

                ruurd@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                @aral @glynmoody Yes well cue management that thinks it knows better what to do followed by knowing it better how to do it. Tic tic tic tic tic...

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                • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

                  @aral I heard a talk from someone, who said something similar, some months back. I'm worried

                  webhat (@webhat@infosec.exchange)

                  OH: I've shipped code to production without understanding what it does, I'm sure we all have, I look at it and ship it No, I haven't. And why would you even look at it? Vibe check?

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                  @webhat @aral 🚨🚨

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                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                    Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                    He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                    Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                    #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                    #25

                    @aral sickos.jpg

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                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                      Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                      He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                      Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                      #AI #microsoft #LLMs

                      jaker@c.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @aral
                      In a minor aside, I was forced to use Copi-lot the other day to change a date field in an online Word document. No other way

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                      • jaker@c.imJ jaker@c.im

                        @aral
                        In a minor aside, I was forced to use Copi-lot the other day to change a date field in an online Word document. No other way

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                        @jaker Wow.

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                        • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                          @mathew @dkl This.

                          By “catastrophic” he meant something that causes people to die, etc. (Medical systems, etc.)

                          artharg@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @aral @mathew @dkl No, something that costs Microsoft money. Something like 365 or Azure being unavailable for a couple of days or weeks.

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                          • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                            Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                            He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                            Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                            #AI #microsoft #LLMs

                            freakazoid@retro.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @aral "Can't do code review because too much code is being generated" is right up there with "well someone would have developed it anyway". AI is just software. It's being driven by humans. If those humans prioritize code review over making their software generate code, it by definition cannot produce code faster than they can review it. So what that statement really means is "we don't care about reviewing code."

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                            • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                              Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                              He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                              Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                              #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                              @aral OK, so here's another little bit that fits the pattern.

                              We're due a catastrophe. The mad king is supposed to utterly ruin our ability to respond to emergency. This seems relatively accomplished. Next step is to cause a massive crisis that topples the last of the old republic.

                              Synchs with the "data centers" that are really just large sections of land secured for corporate.

                              They're investing all our 401ks in it through SpaceX. So...yeah. You are correct.

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                              • artharg@mastodon.nlA artharg@mastodon.nl

                                @aral @mathew @dkl No, something that costs Microsoft money. Something like 365 or Azure being unavailable for a couple of days or weeks.

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                                @ArtHarg @mathew @dkl Already happened to Amazon. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/feb/20/amazon-cloud-outages-ai-tools-amazon-web-services-aws

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                                  @mathew
                                  Sounds like business as usual for Microsoft, to be honest. Delivering the bare minimum before customers take their money elsewhere has been their business model for decades.
                                  I was hoping for something more substantially rotten that costs enough money to make them think.
                                  @aral

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                                  • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                    Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                                    He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                                    Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                                    #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                                    @aral I’m sure they could find a fungible human who’s down in their token-burning quota to be a high-tech whipping boy to fire.

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                                    • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                      Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                                      He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                                      Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                                      #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                                      @aral

                                      Problem is: the very people who need to say that all these billions of dollars were wasted are the very people whose necks are on the board of directors' chopping block. The likes of Nadella, the CEOs and such, are the one's who'd get axed for wasting so much money but they're also the ones who get to decide whether or not cut losses or double down.

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                                      • aral@mastodon.ar.alA aral@mastodon.ar.al

                                        Talked to a software engineer at Microsoft working on Copilot Studio today at a social event and he said he was ashamed that he hadn’t written a single line of code in over three months. “I used to take pride in my work.” (They simply create plans in natural language and feed it to the LLM which generates the code. They can’t even do human code reviews anymore as there’s too much code being generated.)

                                        He said a lot of them were waiting for a catastrophic event (something that would take down critical infrastructure) to get top management to reverse course. He seemed to think such a failure was very likely.

                                        Given what we’ve been seeing recently, I tend to agree with him. Although I feel they will just double down. There’s too much money in the pot for them to fold.

                                        #AI #microsoft #LLMs

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                                        @aral It's always a bad sign when people on the ground are confirming my suspicions about the state of anything. This is no exception.

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