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Remember when em-dashes were just punctuation?

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  • larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
    larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
    larvitz@burningboard.net
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    Remember when em-dashes were just punctuation?

    Now they’re slop-watermarks.

    You can’t read anything online anymore without seeing them lined up like little forensic clues:
    “Here’s the thing—”
    “Let me explain—”
    “The future is—”

    The em-dash used to mean:
    “Ah, a stylish writer.”

    Now it means:
    “This paragraph was assembled in 0.8 seconds by a stochastic parrot that thinks every sentence needs the cadence of a TED Talk delivered during a hostage situation.”

    We’ve reached the phase of the internet where punctuation itself has become a tell. Like digital fingerprints left at the scene of a content crime.

    Soon literary critics are gonna write:
    “Early 2020s prose is characterized by emotional support em-dashes, vacant aphorisms, and the overwhelming sensation that the author has a podcast microphone somewhere nearby.”

    The em-dash died for AI’s sins.

    #ai #emdash #writing #slop

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    • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

      Remember when em-dashes were just punctuation?

      Now they’re slop-watermarks.

      You can’t read anything online anymore without seeing them lined up like little forensic clues:
      “Here’s the thing—”
      “Let me explain—”
      “The future is—”

      The em-dash used to mean:
      “Ah, a stylish writer.”

      Now it means:
      “This paragraph was assembled in 0.8 seconds by a stochastic parrot that thinks every sentence needs the cadence of a TED Talk delivered during a hostage situation.”

      We’ve reached the phase of the internet where punctuation itself has become a tell. Like digital fingerprints left at the scene of a content crime.

      Soon literary critics are gonna write:
      “Early 2020s prose is characterized by emotional support em-dashes, vacant aphorisms, and the overwhelming sensation that the author has a podcast microphone somewhere nearby.”

      The em-dash died for AI’s sins.

      #ai #emdash #writing #slop

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      ee@mastodon.nl
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      #2

      @Larvitz did you use AI to write this?

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        @Larvitz did you use AI to write this?

        larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
        larvitz@burningboard.netL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ee Partially. I used AI (a local LLM in LM-Studio on my Laptop) to refine the wording/writing.

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        • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

          @ee Partially. I used AI (a local LLM in LM-Studio on my Laptop) to refine the wording/writing.

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          #4

          @Larvitz bit ironic, no? What you posted is true by the way, but I’m convinced I can sense when something is AI-written even if there are no em dashes.

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            @Larvitz bit ironic, no? What you posted is true by the way, but I’m convinced I can sense when something is AI-written even if there are no em dashes.

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            @ee Bit ironic, definitely.

            I use AI as a writing tool, since it can write English (a foreign language for me) way better than I can. I use it more as a form of "Translator+" and text refinement method.

            The small, French "Ministral" Models that fit even in my small Laptops iGPU are perfectly capable for that task. (Offline, power efficient and fast).

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            • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

              @ee Bit ironic, definitely.

              I use AI as a writing tool, since it can write English (a foreign language for me) way better than I can. I use it more as a form of "Translator+" and text refinement method.

              The small, French "Ministral" Models that fit even in my small Laptops iGPU are perfectly capable for that task. (Offline, power efficient and fast).

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              @Larvitz don’t worry I’m not judging you. Though I wouldn’t be judging you either if you wrote imperfect English. Nothing wrong with that.

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                @Larvitz don’t worry I’m not judging you. Though I wouldn’t be judging you either if you wrote imperfect English. Nothing wrong with that.

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                larvitz@burningboard.net
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                #7

                @ee I think it's two different things, using AI as a refinement tool to optimize text (with a human in the loop) and using AI to output endless amounts of slop and filler content and throw that into the web ...

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                • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                  Remember when em-dashes were just punctuation?

                  Now they’re slop-watermarks.

                  You can’t read anything online anymore without seeing them lined up like little forensic clues:
                  “Here’s the thing—”
                  “Let me explain—”
                  “The future is—”

                  The em-dash used to mean:
                  “Ah, a stylish writer.”

                  Now it means:
                  “This paragraph was assembled in 0.8 seconds by a stochastic parrot that thinks every sentence needs the cadence of a TED Talk delivered during a hostage situation.”

                  We’ve reached the phase of the internet where punctuation itself has become a tell. Like digital fingerprints left at the scene of a content crime.

                  Soon literary critics are gonna write:
                  “Early 2020s prose is characterized by emotional support em-dashes, vacant aphorisms, and the overwhelming sensation that the author has a podcast microphone somewhere nearby.”

                  The em-dash died for AI’s sins.

                  #ai #emdash #writing #slop

                  alison@burningboard.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  alison@burningboard.net
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                  @Larvitz I never learned to write with em-dashes, but rather with semicolons. I've failed a Turing test once, but my semicolons reassure me that I am indeed human.

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                  • larvitz@burningboard.netL larvitz@burningboard.net

                    Remember when em-dashes were just punctuation?

                    Now they’re slop-watermarks.

                    You can’t read anything online anymore without seeing them lined up like little forensic clues:
                    “Here’s the thing—”
                    “Let me explain—”
                    “The future is—”

                    The em-dash used to mean:
                    “Ah, a stylish writer.”

                    Now it means:
                    “This paragraph was assembled in 0.8 seconds by a stochastic parrot that thinks every sentence needs the cadence of a TED Talk delivered during a hostage situation.”

                    We’ve reached the phase of the internet where punctuation itself has become a tell. Like digital fingerprints left at the scene of a content crime.

                    Soon literary critics are gonna write:
                    “Early 2020s prose is characterized by emotional support em-dashes, vacant aphorisms, and the overwhelming sensation that the author has a podcast microphone somewhere nearby.”

                    The em-dash died for AI’s sins.

                    #ai #emdash #writing #slop

                    alison@burningboard.netA This user is from outside of this forum
                    alison@burningboard.netA This user is from outside of this forum
                    alison@burningboard.net
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                    @Larvitz Thinking about it more, I historically have associated em dashes with advertising. I simply don't remember reading them in ordinary written text.

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