You might wonder how it is the FCC regulates Internet routers.
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So the regulatory authority for the FCC here is rather indirect, kind of a backdoor.
They don't regulate the Internet Protocols or Internet security per se, but they do regulate most of the *equipment* that the Internet runs on (because almost everything uses RF-emitting processors that require FCC certification).
What the FCC has done here is added *all* foreign made consumer routers (that is, all consumer routers) to the "covered list" of national-security-threatening network gear, unless an exemption is obtained. See https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-278A1.pdf
Weirdly, they cite incidents like Salt Typhoon, which compromised carrier-grade equipment, not, as far as I know, consumer routers.
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What the FCC has done here is added *all* foreign made consumer routers (that is, all consumer routers) to the "covered list" of national-security-threatening network gear, unless an exemption is obtained. See https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-278A1.pdf
Weirdly, they cite incidents like Salt Typhoon, which compromised carrier-grade equipment, not, as far as I know, consumer routers.
There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
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There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
hell, they debated the definition of "is". tech stuff? hopeless.
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There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
Given this regime my guesses are "foreign made" is some combination of
- hasn't bribed trump
- hasn't included mandatory palantir censorship and surveillance code.
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There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
@mattblaze Paid off Trump == domestic, did not pay off Trump == foreign
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There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
Also, this will re-ignite the long standing debate over how to pronounce the word "router".
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Also, this will re-ignite the long standing debate over how to pronounce the word "router".
@mattblaze it rhymes with "scone".
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Also, this will re-ignite the long standing debate over how to pronounce the word "router".
@mattblaze I mean, isn't it just like "route" but with the r at the end?

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@mattblaze I mean, isn't it just like "route" but with the r at the end?

@eltonfc It's pronounced like "gif".
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What the FCC has done here is added *all* foreign made consumer routers (that is, all consumer routers) to the "covered list" of national-security-threatening network gear, unless an exemption is obtained. See https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-278A1.pdf
Weirdly, they cite incidents like Salt Typhoon, which compromised carrier-grade equipment, not, as far as I know, consumer routers.
@mattblaze And John Chambers of Cisco Proudly Declared that the corp was going to support the fed with Carnivore and the Patriot Act way back in... whenever.
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RE: https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/116280575943263005
You might wonder how it is the FCC regulates Internet routers. It's complicated.
First, FCC certification has long been required for virtually all microprocessor-equipped electronics, to ensure compliance with RF emission limits.
Then, in 2020, Congress enacted 47 USC § 1601, the "secure networks act", which requires the FCC to maintain a list of networking equipment determined to pose risks to national security: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/1601
Equipment on the list can't receive FCC certification.
@mattblaze I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the technical settings underlying the finding. It's the first step towards controlling the domestic Internet. They were going to find a reason.
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What the FCC has done here is added *all* foreign made consumer routers (that is, all consumer routers) to the "covered list" of national-security-threatening network gear, unless an exemption is obtained. See https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-278A1.pdf
Weirdly, they cite incidents like Salt Typhoon, which compromised carrier-grade equipment, not, as far as I know, consumer routers.
@mattblaze
After dismantling the task force investigating Salt Typhoon. -
@mattblaze I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the technical settings underlying the finding. It's the first step towards controlling the domestic Internet. They were going to find a reason.
@PizzaDemon I'm trying to explain the mechanisms at work here. If you don't find that of interest, no problem, but perhaps others will.
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@mattblaze I mean, isn't it just like "route" but with the r at the end?

@eltonfc @mattblaze Ask an Australian to pronounce "router," or "route," and get back to us.

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There will undoubtably be a lot of hairsplitting over definitions here. What constitutes "foreign made"? Assembled overseas? Made of components from overseas? Running firmware written overseas? etc.
@mattblaze
Could Champagne rules apply? (ie, "it's only a 'router' if it's manufactured in the US; otherwise, it's just a 'sparkling network appliance'") -
@eltonfc @mattblaze Ask an Australian to pronounce "router," or "route," and get back to us.

@jima are we talking about networking, traffic or woodworking?
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@jima are we talking about networking, traffic or woodworking?
@eltonfc @mattblaze Yes.
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