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  3. I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

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  • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

    @futurebird once upon a time, there used to be a $500 5G blocker that advertised to create a bubble around the user, and the ad art was people literally enjoying life in a bubble. I bet they laughed all the way to the bank.

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    @Netraven

    I'd love to see a sketch of what that looked like. This kind of stuff is for me what I think "True Crime" stories are to others.

    It makes me upset, but I just have to see it all.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      @Netraven

      I'd love to see a sketch of what that looked like. This kind of stuff is for me what I think "True Crime" stories are to others.

      It makes me upset, but I just have to see it all.

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      @futurebird it was back when we have a consumer protection bureau that worked. There was tons of that stuff. I just googled "5G blocker bubble scam" and yep there it is.

      NOTE: I did not watch this video in advance. I just know it contains the product I was talking about.

      edit: I apologize, I didn't google, I startpaged. gotta get that stupid saying out of my head.

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      • adrake@sfba.socialA adrake@sfba.social

        @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad @muddle the microwaves in your oven are pretty common and would definitely hurt your brain (and ~every other part of you), but thankfully the ovens come with integrated shielding that's a lot better than 99.7% 😁

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        @adrake @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad I was thinking about that, and the fact that microwave ovens and wifi both use 2.4GHz. I did a quick search to try to find out the relative power levels. Ovens are easy: they're going to be around 800W~2kW. Unfortunately, the search results were suggesting WiFi pumps out 100--200W. Scary, if true. In fact, the actual power output is in the 20-100mW (*milli-*Watt) range.

        I didn't really want to go there because it could play into the hands of those people that want to convince us that Wi-Fi (or 5G or whatever) is making us sick, but the 99.7% shielding figure is good to know. It would mean, roughly, that a 1KW microwave oven with proper shielding is pumping out around 10 times as much radiation as a local Wi-Fi router (1W compared to 100mW).

        People pushing conspiracy theories about this is bad enough, but when search engines are promoting figures that are 3 orders of magnitude off, well... that's also very worrying. (and that's before we even get into LLMs...)

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        • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

          @futurebird it was back when we have a consumer protection bureau that worked. There was tons of that stuff. I just googled "5G blocker bubble scam" and yep there it is.

          NOTE: I did not watch this video in advance. I just know it contains the product I was talking about.

          edit: I apologize, I didn't google, I startpaged. gotta get that stupid saying out of my head.

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          @Netraven

          oh.

          Oh wow. When you said "bubble" I was thinking of a little tent... like a real tent ... that could keep your phone from ringing and not improve your health.

          But this is just a USB stick with a mysterious copper dot.. animations and made up stories.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            @Netraven

            oh.

            Oh wow. When you said "bubble" I was thinking of a little tent... like a real tent ... that could keep your phone from ringing and not improve your health.

            But this is just a USB stick with a mysterious copper dot.. animations and made up stories.

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            @futurebird GET IN THE BUBBLE, IT'S ONLY SAFE IN THE BUBBLE. /s

            I shit you not, mcaffee antivirus software does the same shit to the elderly. If you install their software it convinces them they need to get in the TUNNEL (GET IN THE TUNNEL!!!), the VPN tunnel of course, which they depicted, I shit you not, alien UFOs, criminals, and the ever dubious man in black. who could not get into the TUNNEL. YOU MUST BUY THE TUNNEL TO BE SAFE NOW NOW NOW!!!! (only slightly over-emphasized for effect) and it only cost a low low cost of $100 annually.

            edit: of course so mcaffee could sell their browsing data to third parties.

            America's biggest industry is scams.

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            • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

              @fluffykittycat @futurebird That wackadoodle stuff isn't contained to the US.

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              @CStamp @futurebird this is an important market for them at scale. So many people so little healthcare

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                @futurebird

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                  The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                  (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                  @futurebird it's a bit pricey but I'd quite like one.

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                    The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                    (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                    @futurebird Of course they sneak the number 88 in somehow. And what standards do they think exist for foil hats? What about radio waves coming from the opposite side of the hat? Marketing this kind of thing to defenseless idiots is more than just a little predatory!

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      @mook

                      Maybe? But what I find is my friends are doing fine and are just unaware the there is any other choice?

                      Not only is it normal to see ads all the time, but expecting that they be... not scams is unreasonable.

                      "You didn't fall for it, I didn't what's the big deal?"

                      It makes me feel bad. It makes me feel like science is dead.

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                      @futurebird @mook@possum.city

                      "who would care outside of a small circle of friends?"

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                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                        I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                        The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                        (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                        @futurebird maybe if we enforced laws against medical devices without approval...

                        this is blatantly thumbing their nose at the law

                        it claims a medical effect. arrest them.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                          The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                          (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                          @futurebird More frightening that someone is selling them is the fact that people are buying them!

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                          • anniebuddy@thecanadian.socialA anniebuddy@thecanadian.social

                            @futurebird @CStamp

                            I really hope it unrelated, but I saw 2 teen girls wearing what looked like tinfoil hats in a small town near me last week. I was thinking it was an interesting look 👀

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                            @AnnieBuddy @futurebird @CStamp Maybe something to do with hair dyeing. I think one of the methods for doing highlights or complete dyeing involves separating bunches of hair & wrapping them in foil to contain the dye as it soaks in so you can do other things while waiting on it.

                            However it also could have been foil hats. Kids are exposed to more anti knowledge propaganda now than they have ever been.

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                            • lemgandi@mastodon.socialL lemgandi@mastodon.social

                              @david_chisnall @futurebird

                              Hah. What the MIT folks didn't realize is that by FOCUSING THE RADIO WAVES your brain becomes MORE POWERFUL!

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                              @lemgandi @david_chisnall @futurebird You still use a cellphone to make long distance calls? So old fashioned! I use my parabolic reflecting foil hat to focus radio waves into my hypothalamus, allowing me to receive & transmit radio communications for miles!

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @Scofisticated

                                Yeah, the design isn't that bad. But I think you can find one on aliexpress for $6 without the pseudo science liner.

                                Or often hats are on offer as handmade goods since they aren't that hard to make. (I am to lazy however. I would like to buy a hat ready to go.)

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                                @futurebird @Scofisticated

                                the hat itself is fine. the reflective lining will keep your head warmer. it's the claims about blocking radio signals that are wrong. there is a bunch of stuff like this on fartbook. for a while i was getting relentless ads for these LED face masks that are claimed to serve some kind of cosmetic purpose, but it's a good bet they do absolutely nothing but make you look pretty unhinged.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  @oldclumsy_nowmad

                                  "well this hat protects you from Larry Ellison"

                                  ... is there a hat for that? I could... IDK I'm curious.

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                                  @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social

                                  probably something like this?

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    @oldclumsy_nowmad @muddle

                                    There aren't any common waves that could hurt your brain.

                                    BUT

                                    If you want to know about something invisible, that most people don't know about that can impact your health in persistent mild but still bad ways? Look up "infrasound" --

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                                    @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social @muddle@infosec.exchange

                                    it depends on the strength and type of signal, and how close you are to the source. an unshielded magnetron from a microwave oven will definitely cook you, including your brain. that's why there are warning signs to not stand in front of microwave radio dishes.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      I went on Facebook (I know I know I know) and they are selling tinfoil hats.

                                      The "Wavestopper" costs $88 Free Shipping!

                                      (I checked. It is not an April Fools joke. Selling to people with "brain fog" feels a little predatory to me.)

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                                      @futurebird The silver also helps against werewolves.

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        @oldclumsy_nowmad @Anke @muddle

                                        I wonder if one could channel the feeling many people have that "the world is slowly killing me somehow" into things like insisting that new highways don't send horrible rumbling sounds into surrounding neighborhoods?

                                        But CO2 is also invisible and no one wants to care about that...

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                                        @futurebird @oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social @Anke @muddle@infosec.exchange

                                        living next to a busy road is very stressful.

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                                        • heathen_cat@furs.socialH heathen_cat@furs.social

                                          @futurebird
                                          Sadly, between COVID and aging, there's probably going to be a wave of scam products in the future for brain fog. Nutropics, supplements, silver embedded clothing, just like copper was the woo-woo for arthritis.

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                                          @heathen_cat @futurebird

                                          There are already hundreds of "brain fog" and "shortness of breath" and "fatigue" snake oils bc of the combination of widespread and surging LC and official/bipartisan minimizing of LC. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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