I’ve seen a lot of articles and posts about AI that use the term “like it or not” as in “like it or not, AI is here, and we might as well get used to it” and that is such bullshit.

[madengineering@mastodon.cloud]

@rasterweb I'd retort:

Like it or not, marketing has failed. No one will trust or buy your products again. You might as well declare bankruptcy now.

[arclight@oldbytes.space]

@rasterweb "Like it or not, there are bug parts in your cereal". Yes, and we work tirelessly to eliminate them. It won't ever be perfect but we wotk to make it better because NOBODY WANTS BUG PARTS IN THEIR CEREAL - WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU!"

[mrundkvist@archaeo.social]

@rasterweb
I'm in #archaeology. We've used analytical machine learning for years before the generative apps became available. I know all the good arguments for why nobody should use generative machine learning. But the main reason that I don't is simply that it doesn't offer archaeologists anything useful. And that's *before* venture capital pulls out and ChatGPT becomes expensive.

#aibubble #llm #ai

[catdad@ohai.social]

@rasterweb Let's go forward to better.

[em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb Yes indeed. I am with you
I also hear things like: comparing Ai to the introduction of the calculator and the computer, and how people who resisted learning to use it couldn’t compete with people who learned how to use it. That argument is flawed from the beginning because Ai is not an effective “tool”, and certainly not now. If we had responsible people working on it instead of “gathering data” which adds to the slop, it could start to be a “tool”. Not to mention other problems 🫩

[oberstenzian@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb AI, fascism, and racism are here.

*So are we.*

[turbulent@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb I don't remember where I've read that but apparently speaking out is the single biggest contributor in preventing the spread of authoritarianism. Like it or not, people must speak out or nothing ever changes

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@em_and_future_cats @rasterweb

And even if it were effective, that's a terrible argument.

I learned how to use a computer using a BBC model B. Yes, some of the things I learned there are still relevant. But I have worked with people my age who learned a decade later and have no disadvantage.

People who jumped on technology bandwagons later often have an easier time. They don't have to keep relearning things that rapidly change. While the technology is being deployed, they are solving real problems. Once the technology reaches a generally useful point with some stable features, they can jump on and adopt it at a much lower cost than the early adopters.

Look at the eCommerce boom, for example. A very small number of companies like eBay and Amazon did very well from being early adopters but a lot of the early adopters crashed and burned. In contrast, a lot of companies jumped in after the .com crash and built sustainable business models and did very well. In the UK, the supermarket that adopted online ordering earliest was Tesco (they were on Compuserve!). The two with the largest market share are Lidl and Ocado, neither of which entered that market for the first decade.

[em_and_future_cats@mastodon.social]

@david_chisnall @rasterweb
Oh my! This is a terrific argument! I’m not very good with countering arguments because I tend to get hung up on my own “facts” and then lose momentum when someone puts a fact in front of me that I haven’t done due diligence to know much about it. (Like the one I mentioned earlier). Thank you! This is perfect to add to my arsenal of counterpoints when I meet someone saying “how wonderful Ai is, etc. etc. ”

[mamalake@beige.party]

@rasterweb especially here on fedi, the skills exist in it's people to build a better way.

[thomasjwebb@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb public opinion does actually influence how companies decide product lines, at least when the company isn't all in cultists about the technology. And they are noticing the anti-AI backlash.

[thomasjwebb@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb it's also just lazy. I don't think neural net-based technologies are going away. But there are a million different ways it being "here to stay" can look like, not all of them are most of the population being underpaid maintenance workers in server farms while a few privileged white collar workers get to play LLM roulette all day.

[decapitae@mastodon.social]

@rasterweb

[nwd@mastodon.online]

Has the progress of humanity (less disease, poverty, war, etc.) all been because of the tiny minority of people who actually try to make the world better? What would happen if even half of people actually tried? (2/2)

[nwd@mastodon.online]

@rasterweb I’ve been thinking about this a lot the past few days, that people accept things because they think they’re powerless as an individual against a big corporation or government. It’s crazy to me how the internet made it easier for people to network, but it’s rarely used to unite people to push to make the world better, even for things that the vast majority agree should happen. Instead, it’s used for memes and harassment. (1/2)

[zicon@fribygda.no]

@jesse @arclight @rasterweb Bugs can be tasty, and thus already have a huge advantage over anything AI generated.

[greenhombre@mstdn.social]

@rasterweb
The death knell for AI is that everyone's electricity bills are going through the roof for data centers that produce AI child porn. A rebellion is brewing.

[lucydev@wetdry.world]

@rasterweb "like it or not, AI is here to stay"...well, that is until the investor money runs out. and at this point, everyone who's dependent on AI tools will be utterly fucked.

[lexinova@cyberplace.social]

@rasterweb to be honest those article also completly miss the point as many AI hater do.

In some case AI is there and will not disapear (Millitary, grammar correction etc).

It's the generative par in Gen AI that is a thing that must disapear.

Because when it come to analyse existing data AI is a god, when it come to generate new data it's shit.

[einspossum@chaos.social]

@rasterweb Like it or not, asbestos is here, so we will continue putting it in your walls.