I'm starting to feel the #Epstein Related Work cringe (to coin a term to go alongside #EpsteinClass).
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I'm starting to feel the #Epstein Related Work cringe (to coin a term to go alongside #EpsteinClass). I freeze up when I see someone citing the scientific work of people we now know hung out with Epstein.
I miss the 2019-2025 blissful ignorance when I could fool myself into thinking it was *just* Minksy who was, as the MIT report called him, “Epstein's best friend”. But it's so many of my once-heroes.
I saw the best minds of my generation hang out on a sexual predator's island.
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I'm starting to feel the #Epstein Related Work cringe (to coin a term to go alongside #EpsteinClass). I freeze up when I see someone citing the scientific work of people we now know hung out with Epstein.
I miss the 2019-2025 blissful ignorance when I could fool myself into thinking it was *just* Minksy who was, as the MIT report called him, “Epstein's best friend”. But it's so many of my once-heroes.
I saw the best minds of my generation hang out on a sexual predator's island.
@bkuhn Are you talking about Abelson & Sussman? There's lots of stuff about the Epstein files I haven't followed.
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I'm starting to feel the #Epstein Related Work cringe (to coin a term to go alongside #EpsteinClass). I freeze up when I see someone citing the scientific work of people we now know hung out with Epstein.
I miss the 2019-2025 blissful ignorance when I could fool myself into thinking it was *just* Minksy who was, as the MIT report called him, “Epstein's best friend”. But it's so many of my once-heroes.
I saw the best minds of my generation hang out on a sexual predator's island.
Note I don't blame people who need to cite prior work. & that's really the problem. The work is important, but hard to separate it from actions of the badly behaved person who did the work — particularly when they're your contemporaries.
I have always had a similar reaction to, e.g, Thomas Jefferson as the primary author of the _Declaration of Independence_ while owning other humans and refusing to liberate them.
But Jefferson was dead centuries before my birth. These folks were my colleagues.
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@bkuhn Are you talking about Abelson & Sussman? There's lots of stuff about the Epstein files I haven't followed.
Yes, I mean Sussman & Abelson. Below are links to some of the receipts.
I'm
& I🤮y: I spent years sitting next friends of sexual predators at #FSF Board of Directors mtgs.
(Remember: #Epstein had already been convinced & served prison time in Florida at this point & all knew at #MIT.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00709064.pdf#page=4
https://web.archive.org/web/20101112051649/http://www.jeffreyepsteinscience.com/testimonials/#:~:text=MIT
http://factfindingjan2020.mit.edu/files/MIT-report.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA02036765.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00754348.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01811639.pdf
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02417540.pdf
https://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html
Cc: @tito
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Note I don't blame people who need to cite prior work. & that's really the problem. The work is important, but hard to separate it from actions of the badly behaved person who did the work — particularly when they're your contemporaries.
I have always had a similar reaction to, e.g, Thomas Jefferson as the primary author of the _Declaration of Independence_ while owning other humans and refusing to liberate them.
But Jefferson was dead centuries before my birth. These folks were my colleagues.@bkuhn You can always cite it the way I saw someone cite the Unabomber.
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@bkuhn You can always cite it the way I saw someone cite the Unabomber.
@dalias I'll bite. How did they write up the citation for the Unabomber?
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@dalias I'll bite. How did they write up the citation for the Unabomber?
@bkuhn Footnote "better known for his other works".
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@bkuhn Footnote "better known for his other works".
@bkuhn I forget where I saw it, probably back on
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@bkuhn I forget where I saw it, probably back on
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@bkuhn Footnote "better known for his other works".
@dalias Speaking of the Unabomber, he was definitely like a stopped calendar that is right every ≈28 years.
One of the phrases that his brother I identified with him is that the Unabomber used was: “can't eat your cake then have it too”, which admittedly actually makes sense as an aphorism while the canonical version makes no sense.
I started using the Unabomber version, & then just worked real hard to remove the aphorism from my speech altogether.
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@dalias @bkuhn ... which, according to https://www.thetedkarchive.com/library/ted-kaczynski-the-mathematical-work-of-ted-kaczynski, comes from "Digit Reversal Without Apology", by Lara Pudwell, of Rutgers University: https://faculty.valpo.edu/lpudwell/papers/mm005281.pdf
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@dalias @bkuhn ... which, according to https://www.thetedkarchive.com/library/ted-kaczynski-the-mathematical-work-of-ted-kaczynski, comes from "Digit Reversal Without Apology", by Lara Pudwell, of Rutgers University: https://faculty.valpo.edu/lpudwell/papers/mm005281.pdf
@creideiki you have an ‘ö’ in your #Fediverse / #Mastodon handle.I had no idea Unicode was supported for handles! It makes sense #ActivityPub didn't have to follow RFC 2822 `addr-spec` syntax, but I guess I'm so old I assumed it did.
Darn,
I coulda been @bkühn@copyleft.org
. Too late now that I've already transitioned once here from @bkuhn@floss.social -
@creideiki you have an ‘ö’ in your #Fediverse / #Mastodon handle.
I had no idea Unicode was supported for handles! It makes sense #ActivityPub didn't have to follow RFC 2822 `addr-spec` syntax, but I guess I'm so old I assumed it did.
Darn,
I coulda been @bkühn@copyleft.org. Too late now that I've already transitioned once here from @bkuhn@floss.social@bkuhn The domain part is just a DNS domain, and in the right ccTLD (like .se) "ö" is a perfectly valid character. I haven't actually tried to mess with the username part.
But there are still ActivityPub implementations that reject the shiny new (well, 2003) IDN world and show the Punycode "xn--" variant instead. Fewer now, since I started using this server and sending bug reports
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@bkuhn The domain part is just a DNS domain, and in the right ccTLD (like .se) "ö" is a perfectly valid character. I haven't actually tried to mess with the username part.
But there are still ActivityPub implementations that reject the shiny new (well, 2003) IDN world and show the Punycode "xn--" variant instead. Fewer now, since I started using this server and sending bug reports@creideiki Ok, TIL that TLDs could have Unicode? I thought all of DNS had to be only ASCII 0x21 - 0x3A (plus 0x25).
I'm starting to feel like everything I know about the Internet is wrong.
