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@pixelate That terminal fuckery has been present for ages in linux. So long in fact that when I came to linux 11 years ago, it was already there.

@pixelate Yeah. This is all thanks to VTE based terminal of course. VTE keeps refusing to acknowledge that there are bugs, orca keeps telling them there are bugs, VTE sends the ball back to orca and the cycle repeats. It's been like that for years. Truely pathetic. Turned into a game of who's wrong and who's right and both parties do nothing to fix.

@pixelate Nano is horrible, irssi is horrible, menuconfig type of dialog in buildroot or kernel config is horrible. Nano it'll start fine then past a certain number of lines... It'll just stop talking. Wonderful.

@pixelate I just checked the one on arch. Very good owrk indeed. Not bad at all.

The absolute irony though is that orca still has trouble with handling terminal apps, far as I'm aware.

@pixelate Has it?

Hmm. Since when is orca ran as a systemd unit? Interesting.

I hope they've done the right thing here, sd_notify support, periodic ping to the watchdog, all that stuff.

@pixelate I know right?

Linux audio stack might be horrible but at least it doesn't crash just because the terminal is busy. Or rather, it *can* crash espeakup, but it's at least rare, compared to nvda.