@vpz @mttaggart I think the trap most fall into is they believe that a chat platform like Discord is valuable in the long term. But it's far less useful than a forum because finding context is hard. Threads are broken up and there are a lot of stub conversations that are useless. Forums automatically self-regulate this issue by design: you are automatically more intentional.
While probably jarring initially I'd love to see an ephemeral chat app that is feature rich like Discord. Everything is gone after some short amount of time. You could still have things like conversation summaries or a place to save useful files but the actual aspect of chat would be short lived (24h) which might make platforms like Slack and Discord feel much less like overhead and more like a conversation again.
As for the here and now, well, it's clear Discord is a complicit part in some number of deranged billionaire's grand vision to control the masses. Everyone should nope the fuck out.