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@rakoo not proposing anything other than self restraint. If you oppose the system in which you live and act, that's what you'll have to answer to. I'm not justifying it, just saying I'm opposed to violence. If you want to do harm to other people to protect yourself or your beliefs, that's on you. @viccie30 @afewbugs

@viccie30 I'm sorry, but what in what I just wrote makes it that I am for anything that ICE is doing? Admittedly I'm not very good at English, so please tell me where I lapsed so I can better myself. But honestly, it seems you're just desperate to win an argument that isn't there.

@viccie30 I'm not in any way arguing against you here, we just have very different ways of going about it. I'm anti-violence not pro-nazi, all in protecting our own against incarceration. To me at least that's a huge difference. @afewbugs

@oblomov I'm with you, all in, but we need to protect ourselves. We cannot be provoking violence openly in forums like this, that will surely be used against us. Not to mention, the weaker amongst us will see it as validation of their own urges for retribution. @afewbugs

@afewbugs this is an appalling story and I mean not to belittle you in any way, but they are different in that of individual vs. state. Sure, the individuals representing the state may definitely deserve a beating up, but when we communicate is the best way of reaching other people really violence?
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@afewbugs I can also, and fully (!), understand and respect that! The only thing I was objecting to was propagating the "beat him up" part. In situations like these we need to see more cool heads on the shoulders of everyone. @viccie30

@oblomov not the exact same situation though, is it? In your case it's within the same nation, so nation laws apply. In the case of Nazis vs the rest of the world we hadn't even established the Geneva convention. But sure, you just want to make a point, and I'm with you. Let's just say I'm in the back of the crowd saying; Maybe don't bust them up so we'll be the ones being accused of any wrongdoing. @afewbugs

@viccie30 yes I would, any democracy worth its salt has an independent legal arm to handle the retribution aspect. We cannot leave it up to any random protesters to carry out the law of the people. @afewbugs

@afewbugs completely understand that, just take a step back and look at the phrasing of your original post. In all communication we have to be careful in what we put out there. Take care!

@afewbugs so let me start by saying I'm not pro any of the horrors that are happening in the US right now, but you're "cheering" to someone being beat up, right? Sorry, but that's where I draw my line.

Block them, sure
Object them, absolutely
Protest them, everywhere!

Beat them up? Yeah no.