CIRCLE WITH A DOT

@blp my guess is that American peanut butter is more likely to have sugar in it than other places.

@benbrown Tis but a scratch.

@benbrown That's not a Jiffy Pop being cooked?

@christianselig it is important to me to "vote" with my wallet since so many companies only listen to that!

@christianselig Maybe so, but for me it is a principle. I have a device that does all the things I want to use in a car, and that car maker is blocking me. I don't like that. Maybe it is a neurodiversity thing. I don't know. But if I had to buy a car today, it is enough of an issue for me that I would avoid them and not feel I am missing out.

@christianselig And that makes sense, but I am (for good or bad) in the Apple ecosphere and not Rivian's.

Thankfully I am not in immediate need of another vehicle, and can wait and see where the cards fall, but I am hoping Rivian (and GM, et alia) change their minds.

@christianselig Yeah, the ICCU issues are a concern, and thankfully no issues with the Kona.

As for CarPlay, I think these companies that are leaving it out are doing so in order to track, and sell data. (For now) I still trust Apple more with that data. Plus I like a consistent experience when it comes to podcasts and maps and voice asisstants. Lastly, my only experience with a manufacturer's SatNav is Hyundai and I do not like it. I find it hard to see, and I HATE the voice!

@christianselig Very helpful article. Thanks.

FYI, one small typo in CarPlay section.

I am personally one of those people for whom CarPlay is a requirement in any car I own from now on. Which sucks because Rivian is the only brand other than Hyundai that I am interested in for EVs. We love our FWD Kona, but need an AWD vehicle next. I would prefer an R2 (or even better an R3), but I assume an Ioniq 5 is in our future.