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I guess my takes here come down to:
1. of all the age verification/declaration kerfuffles going on lately, this one is the least-invasive small potatoes imaginable
2. not sure why this has to be said, but you have absolutely no right whatsoever to demand that other people die on the hill of your choice
3. given that some people are going to reasonably choose not to die on this particular hill, it's entirely reasonable for upstream infrastructure maintainers to provide a trivial API surface that downstream consumers can choose to expose or not

@wwahammy @dalias @whitequark the most obvious candidate is Valve? and I'd expect it'd be very possible to come up with cases for Canonical and perhaps Framework

the preponderance of the evidence standard simply means "more likely than not", and any competent AG is going to be able to convince a judge or jury that at least a few thousand kids have probably used Steam Decks in California

@dalias @whitequark you may well get the fine if the court rules against you and you'd been out of compliance the entire time without a preliminary injunction in place (and who knows if a court would grant one for this)

this is not risk any business should be expected to take

@dalias @whitequark like, even if you *did* intend to take this to court, the correct de-risk is clearly to implement the extremely simple required API in advance, so you can roll it out quickly and not end up in contempt if the court case doesn't go your way

@dalias @whitequark @natanbc okay? but clearly a lot of downstream consumers are going to need the facility, so providing a standard (optional!) interface for it is prudent as an upstream infrastructure maintainer, to avoid obvious painful fragmentation?

I see so many people making a huge deal out of linux stuff adding support for the california age thing, and I'm like. you know basically every online service has been required to ask for your age since 1998? this is literally just "at account creation, the device owner can set an age field. to whatever they want. and then apps can query that instead of asking themselves."
you can set it to the unix epoch if you want