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@jonathanhogg good point! I think I see what you meant now. I miss the old visual basic and how easy it was to make tools using it without knowing any programming, really.

@jonathanhogg Actually think you have that backwards. Making something dangerous and broken has been easy for ages, that's why a certain level of gatekeeping is actually a good thing. Like, driving a car isn't that hard. A six year old can do it with a few minutes of training. Driving a car safely on the other hand

@david_chisnall @cliffle @soatok I can see where you are coming from, but personally I think this is misguided. Everyone in the committee has their own pet feature that is the one that really needs to be added to the language. Contracts is the biggest pet feature of them all. But the biggest problem that the language has IMO is that it has too many features! Adding more features just cannot solve that problem. If there absolutely has to be a new language version, it should remove something. Make it stricter, restrict pointer arithmetic unless marked as unsafe etc. Compile time reflection is cool but not essential.

But I have moved on from C++, anyway.

@david_chisnall @cliffle @soatok It’s pretty amazing and somehow an ode to the human spirit that there are people out there who look at C++ and think ”What this needs are more features”

@timbray I don’t know if you were referring to my reply in your follow-up, Tim. I did read the whole thing. I disagree with Steve Yegge on a fundamental point. AI is not making him or anyone else 10x more productive, for any meaningful measure of productivity. It is rotting his brain, and it is clear from the way he writes and expresses himself that he is drunk, addicted and manic. He agrees. But he still thinks that he is doing great. ”I just need to cut the heroin with some speed!” No dude. You’re ruining yourself.

@timbray Respectfully, that is garbage. Just utter, steaming garbage. Steve Yegge has completely lost all credibility. "don’t take it from me. Take it from… the Copilot people." Ah yes, the Copilot people. Their products are truly having their moment in the sun right now. Windows, Github, that stuff has truly never been more popular, stable or perfected than they are right now. Surely no one could find a more pleased customer than a Microsoft customer at this moment in time. There is absolutely an AI Vampire in the room right now, and it is wearing Steve Yegges face.