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kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK

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  • So I'm having a "This is why we still use Fortran" moment today.
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @arclight many years later I discovered the rest of Prof. Leveson’s work and I won’t say that I made it my whole personality but it’s a lot of it

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  • So I'm having a "This is why we still use Fortran" moment today.
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @arclight this was one of the first papers we read in my systems engineering course in college and it was very formative for me

    https://web.stanford.edu/class/archive/cs/cs240/cs240.1236/old//sp2014/readings/therac-25.pdf

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  • If you ask AI to rewrite the entirety of an open-source program, do you still need to abide by the original license?
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @lcamtuf There are a number of tools online which purport to strip the copyright from images by running them through an image model, and they're just as obviously bullshit

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  • If you ask AI to rewrite the entirety of an open-source program, do you still need to abide by the original license?
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @ArneBab @SnoopJ @bgalehouse @lcamtuf

    And the spec would need to carefully elide certain details which would get it classed as a derivative work itself—much harder for an LLM to do than a team of humans

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  • If you ask AI to rewrite the entirety of an open-source program, do you still need to abide by the original license?
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @hopeless @lcamtuf no, you're just reading an educated asshole who happens to be right

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  • If you ask AI to rewrite the entirety of an open-source program, do you still need to abide by the original license?
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @ArneBab @tbortels @lcamtuf @bgalehouse

    Yeah the license applies whether you accept it or not. And whether your spec counts as a derivative work or not will depend greatly on the details of your spec

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  • If you ask AI to rewrite the entirety of an open-source program, do you still need to abide by the original license?
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @lcamtuf actual answer: of course you do, it’s prima facie a derivative work, same as if you had rewritten the program by hand.

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  • "what if we first wrote a robust specification and constrained the bots to deriving code that conformed to the spec?"
    kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.comK kevinr@masto.free-dissociation.com

    @sarahjamielewis every time somebody tells me that the silver lining of LLMs is that they force devs to actually write documentation I just laugh and laugh

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