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@DrewNaylor you don't want to use flatpak, you want to use systemd to start the homescreen as a sandboxed service. e.g. gnome just switches between systemd targets in the user to eventually start:
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Yes, Red Hat is a heavy weight in contributions but it's misleading to think in those terms.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_contributions
So we look at governance, I cant find the link for stuff so I'll just the first result in my search engine. https://www.x.org/wiki/BoardOfDirectors/
Do note, that it makes sense to view the stuff gnome is doing and the gnome foundation as completely different things.
https://handbook.gnome.org/governance.html#maintainers
https://www.bassi.io/articles/2025/08/03/governance-in-gnome/
systemd is probably the clearest example for cooperate involvement, as it's not a desktop only component.
https://systemd.io/GOVERNANCE/
systemd isn't the first project to rush. it's not a spec to provide that, it sadly passed in california. and it maps cleanly to existing gecos field for passwd so isn't a new thing for linux. /etc/passwd is probably readable by everyone, so already fingerprinting compatible.
i myself will just geoblock non-europe in the future if i make my distro public.
You wanna think about corporate linux desktop? We already have that, it's called chromebook, android and steamos. https://agelesslinux.org/distros.html
There are far worse things already around for years. Like forcing a data sim-card in combination with a microphone in your car. You should be scared for a widevine-like module in trustzone to ensure you verified your age with a government. Not seeing certain domains in emails of contributors as a big conspiracy by big tech. It's so much easier to just force compliance by saying that "disabling secure boot" and "rooting" is prohibited in a country, only compliant operating systems will be allowed.
https://compliancehub.wiki/brazil-age-verification-law-operating-systems/
@ZanaGB what's a boot? what do shoes have to do with it?
explain xkcd is a wiki dedicated to explaining the webcomic xkcd. Go figure.
(www.explainxkcd.com)
@Tijgertje1987 to continue the analogy: at that point it was already neglect to have still kept the training wheels 
@navi you should be arguing against technology being sold as a substitution for teaching and parenting. of course big tech with its "ask me later" doesn't teach consent.
this is isn't a technological problem, this is a societal problem and tolerating abusive parents. not asking children in school what they face at home, how they are allowed to use technology. only since the year 2000 have children the right for nonviolent parenting in germany.
@navi so your arguing against a specific implementation? memories while growing up are heavily skewed, that was a really though thing to learn for me while taking care of a kid for a year. there were even moments were it made sense to lie or heavily skew the truth, a thing i couldn't have imagined before.
a trust relationship is exactly the thing i am arguing for, i'm not sure how much you dealt with actual parenting and supervising children.
you're arguing against a cptsd survior, i had very a abusive parents. the reality is that we as a foss community should enable healthy foss tools, because the stalkerware will get developed anyway due to money incentives. and it will not rely on any age bracket stuff as the primary usecase for stalkerware is stalking partners.
@ZanaGB @cas @freya yes. but at what point has the child learned enough? at what age is privacy more important? you can't supervise a child all day long unless your an "helicopter parent"
it's giving your kid training wheels with a bicycle so your sibling can take them on a small road tour, there isn't an exact day where a newborn turns into a kid turns into an teenager turns into an adolescent.
@freya
your argument sound like an ad hominem.
one can also implement parental controls to be not creepy; without it turning into an audit of the child's every activity or doing gps tracking. reasonable parenting is working on limits in cooperation/input of the child.
new features i didn't expect and am happly suprised about this release in gnome: https://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2026/01/gnome-50-will-support-bedtime-daily-screen-time-parental-controls/amp/
