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@ketmorco @glyph I will never believe that any human being is incapable of reason. Even if there is, that belief robs ME of MY basic humanity.

@glyph Ok but that’s a much more narrow version of what you said. You said you must dismiss ALL experiences. If you want to argue specifically about the productivity claims fine whatever I still think you’re wrong but not in a way that matters to me, it’s a narrow thing and I’m only going off vibes anyway. It’s specifically the “all” I’m objecting to.

@glyph Honestly? The left would be in a better place if we didn’t instantly dismiss that person but actually explored that feeling and engaged with him. “You’re wrong” may be true, and feels good to say, but “what makes feel that way?” is a much better opening if you want to win people over to your side.

@glyph You’ve reasoned yourself into a position where anyone who says anything contrary to you is either delusional or lying. You might be right — I don’t think you are but who knows maybe — but even so, that’s just not a position I’m willing to take about anything ever.

@glyph “You must dismiss all experiences of LLM users”

This is where you lose me. There’s no universe in which I’m comfortable dismissing the lived experiences of people that categorically. The most important lesson I’ve learned from decades of activism is “believe people when they tell you about their experiences” — and I see no reason to change now. I’m not willing to give up my curiosity and empathy and I hope you aren’t either.