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@lina @laund
What is your actual problem with Zulip? It's just as async as discord, but has actually usable topics and search. The only thing it is missing is voicechat and screen share, which are not things you need for community building.

@lina @laund discord is not good, it was the least worst option when it took off, but that doesn't fucking make it good, especially not for massive communities where everyone is constantly talking over each other and it's impossible to even read let alone join in.

@lina @laund
Discord and it's firehouse of text is literally hostile to me personally. I do not feel comfortable about asking for support there, because when I do there's a 50/50 chance of either getting washed away by spam, or someone going "uggh, I'm tired of answering this over and over".
And I need to stay glued to discord in case anybody asks clarifying questions and doesn't use the reply feature.

Which is a common occurrence, because I my experience discord just "unreplies" your messages half the time.

@laund @lina I've scrolled through posts&replies tab down to 5 days ago, and I do not see anything that would answer my question.

@lina what's your issue with "discord is bad and you can choose to not use it"????? It mightve been worded in a way more obnoxious way, but on the face of it, both parts of that statement are true.

Discord is both bad as a company, and as a product (abysmal search, zero discoverability for threads, unacceptable laggy UI) + for specific usecase of a large community: linear text channels break down when there are hundreds of people in them.

You could instead host an instance of discourse or zulip instead, both being way better at discovering previous discussions, and better at segregating discussions to avoid the "it is never my turn to speak" blocker that popolous text channels have, discourse eleminating that one completely due to being asynchronous.