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@ninafelwitch I think there's a risk that folks would miss out of genuinely (imo) useful features like translation, because they thought "ugh AI" and clicked dismiss, but I'm guessing a little - I work on web platform features, hence the account name, and I personally have little interest in AI becoming a large part of my role here.
I only got involved in the "kill switch" because I noticed it lacked a way to "disable all & future features… except [x]", which I was able to push for.
@ninafelwitch I think that's where the confusion comes from, yeah. The use & download of AI is opt-in, but the offer of using & downloading it isn't. This is why I've avoided using the term "opt-in" unprompted, because folks can have a different, but also reasonable definition.
Whereas the "kill switch" is simpler. Enable it, and the entry points are gone. Including for future AI features.
What is and isn't an AI feature is another grey area (e.g. translation), but I hope we got that right.
@ninafelwitch actually, the "settings" link just takes you to general settings. There used to be an option there to disable the "suggest more of my tabs" button, but it's moved to the new "AI controls" settings.
It should link to "AI controls". I've suggested this internally, and folks agree.
@ninafelwitch the first screenshot is when you create a tab group, the second is if you click "suggest more of my tabs".
If you click cancel in the second screenshot, you go back to the first screen.
Next time you create a tab group, you get the first screen.
Although the "settings" link takes you to where you can disable this entry point, and all AI entry points, including ones for future AI features.
@ninafelwitch and it is. Models don't download until you engage with the feature.
However, some folks have said this doesn't count as opt-in, as the entry points are still visible.
AI Controls let you also disable these entry points.
@memdmp @alextecplayz @giacomo fwiw, when you click "suggest more of my tabs", you get this:
@ada general release notes are at https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/android/127.0/releasenotes/, you can also search bugzilla. But, what makes you suspect the screen lock?
@wojtek it's so nice that Mastodon does 60fps.
Although, sorry, I'll be back in my garage for the web feature videos
@giacomo @alextecplayz ok. Some features of video calling (watching, chatting) are available without granting microphone access, but maybe location access is a better example.
@ada would you feel comfortable filing a bug report about this on https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/home?
@giacomo @alextecplayz none of the current AI features are involved in opening a new tab.
@paul well, if we created binaries for all combinations of the current 5 features, that would be 32x-ing the number of binaries per build. And I think people would still be unhappy depending on which was seen as the default.
The AI Controls give an easy way to have that granular control, and you don't need to switch binary just to try a feature.
@giacomo I'll ask about the download location & update checking. I don't know off the top of my head.
But needless to say this is more privacy preserving than browsers that perform translation by sending the text off-device.
@schrottkatze I guess try the setting, and see what changes in the profile.
@schrottkatze about:config is a less reliable way to configure Firefox, but I'm not sure if the setting are reflected there.
The video in the previous post shows blocking all current and future AI features, then specifically re-enabling local translations.
@alextecplayz here's the help page, so you can judge for yourself https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-ai-controls. We mostly refrain from using the term "opt-in" because people have different definitions of opt-in.
Models don't download until you engage with the feature, but some folks have said it's only opt-in if even the entry points are in a separate binary.
I asked for UI that shows downloaded models, but there wasn't time for that in 148. I'll keep asking for it 
@giacomo I guess your point about mis-clicks equally applies to permission prompts. The good news is this can be, in both cases, undone.
@giacomo it doesn't show for each tab - it's when creating a tab group. The AI Controls let you hide these entry points.
And again, I want to stress that these are local models, so privacy is preserved.
