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@jaffathecake @reflex @froztbyte @ZBennoui @ddelemeny you should have seen this one time I ordered a burger and the waiter served me a salad and I said I ordered a burger but he kept talking about vegetarians and how the plate was designed based on feedback from a poll about the best colours with the options being brown, grey, and ‍️ but every time I asked about the burger the waiter told me that vegetarians don't like to eat meat

@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny unfortunately the addons library has a bunch of plugins to improve the firefox bookmarking system but not so many to replace it

@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny but will they be promoted as alternative options directly in the context of the built-in translation tool?

@jaffathecake @ZBennoui @froztbyte @reflex @ddelemeny will there be an option in the translation tool to substitute it with a 3rd party extension?

@reflex @ddelemeny @jaffathecake @froztbyte they want to keep framing this as a deliberation over the merits of individual features instead of a, pretty straight forward, push for a separation of concerns between a web browser and extensions

@jaffathecake @duke_of_germany Jake, let me be absolutely clear, yet again. The pushback has not been against AI, it has been against AI being integrated into Firefox. Every time you say these things which continue to ignore this distinction you are gaslighting our positions into being some kind of irrational request that breaks the laws of physics and not something that is completely rational and worthy of an honest response.

@jaffathecake @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs

you said that it's not really useful to know that people who don't like AI don't like AI

and then you said:

> To be clear, I'm not someone who has personally found AI generally useful in browsers (aside from a couple of one-off automations), but my feelings aren't strong enough to deny those features to others.

Jake Archibald (@jaffathecake@mastodon.social)

@froztbyte I suppose that's literally true. But, I also think a mountain is made out of the molehill that is AI in Firefox. The vast majority of the dev time is on other things. To be clear, I'm not someone who has personally found AI generally useful in browsers (aside from a couple of one-off automations), but my feelings aren't strong enough to deny those features to others.

Mastodon (mastodon.social)

@jaffathecake @duke_of_germany @firefoxwebdevs evidence was clearly that "folks who don't like AI" don't like AI *BUILT INTO FIREFOX*

you are wasting everyone's time and misrepresenting all the arguments as an irrational denial of AI that others might find useful.

It was always about the absurdity of integrating something, ANYTHING, that is not critical to web browsing, directly into the browser instead of making it a plug in, on equal ground to 3rd party developers.

Instead, this nonsense