CIRCLE WITH A DOT

@malteengeler thank you for going into more detail on this, i really appreciate it

@malteengeler @alineblankertz

and if these questions on the fediverse feel in any way unpleasant or inappropriate, not engaging with them is a response i'm very willing to accept i really don't want to make anyone's day feel more tense

@malteengeler @alineblankertz sorry, just to be clear: i've never said anything about whether socialization / expropriation is a good or bad idea i understand the "why" behind it. thank you for taking the time to really go into detail, i appreciate it, but this isn't what i'm curious about

what i'm trying to understand is exactly what i asked. what is the authority / entity that initiates and orchestrates expropriation / socialization, in this vision?

@alineblankertz

i will refer to the "we" that you used, i don't know who it refers to, but when i say "you", below, i mean it in the plural.

socialization would then be a process initiated by those who want to take over a private entity? but expropriation is a legal proceeding, from what i know. how do you envision who has the authority to decide which private entities (persons or companies) are "expropriated"?

@alineblankertz thank you for linking, i knew about the housing initiative ^^

i don't want to take up too much of your time, but, if you happen to have the energy, would you be willing to clarify just these 2 points:
1) who can initiate a "socialization" / who coordinates it? the government?
2) what does "expropriation" mean in the context of the manifesto and how does it differ from 'socialization"?

@alineblankertz

what does "to socialize" mean? i understand it intuitively as an act that a government can do, by taking a legal entity and giving ownership over it and over all of its assets to another entity. what is the new destination of this ownership, this transfer? and is the government the one that can do this transfer?

i've read the CoR manifesto carefully and it also uses a different word, "expropriate". is this different, in intention, from "socialize"?

@shibacomputer this is a fantastic read, thank you so much for putting it out there!

in the bookshelf of my mind, i set your essay alongside @Mer__edith's essay on the origins of computing strategies: https://logicmag.io/supa-dupa-skies/origin-stories-plantations-computers-and-industrial-control/

and alongside David Golumbia's Cyberlibertarianism

all excellent writing that challenge the dogma of "freedom" that white-washed so much pain caused by and amplified by digital tech

Excellent article by @epicenter_works on the weakening of the #EIDAS regulation:

Five problems the Commission must fix in the EU Wallet

(epicenter.works)

@apti signed an open letter to the Commission calling for stronger safeguards in the implementing acts:

https://epicenter.works/fileadmin/medienspiegel/user_upload/eIDAS_IAs_OpenLetter_2026.pdf

“You think that if they knew about the extent of the data collection, no one would dare to use the glasses”.

She Came Out of the Bathroom Naked, Employee Says

Bank details, sex and naked people who seem unaware they are being recorded. Behind Meta’s new smart glasses lies a hidden workforce, uneasy about peering into the most intimate parts of other people’s lives.

SvD.se (www.svd.se)

#meta #metarayban #facialrecognition #GDPR

@vreer the latest one from 2025 is trying to look at technology through its effects of society and connection. then, it tries to apply principles of RA to technology: https://catileptic.tech/posts/relationship-anarchy-technology/

the one from 2024 is more of an intro, a gentle sliding into RA from an overview of what our societal dynamic is like these days and the political implications thereof: https://catileptic.tech/posts/relationship-anarchy/

@vreer hi there! i practice RA and have also written about it (on https://catileptic.tech )

please feel very warmly welcome to send me a DM if you'd like