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Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

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  • afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
    afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
    afewbugs@social.coop
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    Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
    https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

    "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

    #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

    catzilla@toot.catC unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU mshearthwitch@wandering.shopM david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD craigmorgan@mastodon.socialC 5 Replies Last reply
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    • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

      Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
      https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

      "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

      #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

      catzilla@toot.catC This user is from outside of this forum
      catzilla@toot.catC This user is from outside of this forum
      catzilla@toot.cat
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      #2

      @afewbugs I don’t trust bike storage at stations and for that reason I never bike to a station and leave my bike there. I am 100% sure it would be stolen. I am in Toronto, Canada. It’s not a UK only problem.

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      • afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ravenbait they have allegedly rowed back on the "we won't investigate if it cost less than £200 and was there for more than two hours thing". Although in practice what that probably means is they still won't investigate, but they just won't declare this as a formal policy

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        • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

          Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
          https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

          "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

          #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

          unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU This user is from outside of this forum
          unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU This user is from outside of this forum
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          @afewbugs

          This is my main limiting factor too! I basically only go for bike rides when I would stay near the bike (e.g. to a park), or to a friend's house where it could be inside or in the back garden.

          The risk isn't so much about money, it's how long it took me to get the bike set up how I like it. Losing it now and having to start again would be demoralising!

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          • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

            Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
            https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

            "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

            #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

            mshearthwitch@wandering.shopM This user is from outside of this forum
            mshearthwitch@wandering.shopM This user is from outside of this forum
            mshearthwitch@wandering.shop
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            @afewbugs this was definitely one of the hurdles for me. And saw me dropping $$$ on locks to hopefully give me some peace of mind when I do leave it parked somewhere

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            • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

              Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
              https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

              "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

              #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

              david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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              @afewbugs

              This is a big part of why I don't yet own an eBike. I have a dutch bike that I got second hand. The frame looks a bit scruffy, there's some rust. The saddle has a hole in it and so I prevent it sticking to me by putting a carrier bag over it. It looks really cheap. I'm quite happy parking it at the station because anyone who is going to steal a bike will have a much better return on investment with dozens of other bikes nearby. And, since it cost about £200 and has had almost ten years of use, if it's stolen then it's a minor nuisance but I've had good value from it even if I don't ever get more.

              But if I got a decent eBike, it's a much more tempting target and a bigger expense if lost. The station is probably one of the safer places here (the bike park is a decent size and usually has a few people in it, so you'd be noticed if you were breaking a lock, though it's not patrolled at all), but leaving it in random places in town would not make me very comfortable.

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              • unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyzU unchartedworlds@scicomm.xyz

                @afewbugs

                This is my main limiting factor too! I basically only go for bike rides when I would stay near the bike (e.g. to a park), or to a friend's house where it could be inside or in the back garden.

                The risk isn't so much about money, it's how long it took me to get the bike set up how I like it. Losing it now and having to start again would be demoralising!

                catzilla@toot.catC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @unchartedworlds @afewbugs Yes. My beater isn’t even expensive - it’s old and everything - but I would be upset if it’s stolen

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                • catzilla@toot.catC catzilla@toot.cat

                  @unchartedworlds @afewbugs Yes. My beater isn’t even expensive - it’s old and everything - but I would be upset if it’s stolen

                  afewbugs@social.coopA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @catzilla @unchartedworlds mine cost less than the lights on it, and the lights cost £60. But yes I'm definitely very emotionally attached to that bike and would be devastated if someone stole it even though financially it's worth almost nothing. I've tried to make it look more distinctive (when the pedals broke I replaced them with bright yellow ones) more battered (the saddle is patched) and more girlie to deter lads just nicking bikes for a jolly (sunflowers all over the basket) but I still don't really feel comfortable leaving it at the station

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                  • mshearthwitch@wandering.shopM mshearthwitch@wandering.shop

                    @afewbugs this was definitely one of the hurdles for me. And saw me dropping $$$ on locks to hopefully give me some peace of mind when I do leave it parked somewhere

                    jepyang@wandering.shopJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @MsHearthWitch @afewbugs and the other thing about locks is that the quality and security of a lock often scales with weight. you can get a really good, fairly light lock, but it’s a tiny u-lock that leaves one wheel vulnerable and can make locking a tricky endeavor. or you can get a fuckoff big chain that secures both wheels but it adds ten pounds to your bike (which is funny because the more you spend on your bike, the lighter it gets and the heavier a lock you need to secure it).

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                    • jepyang@wandering.shopJ jepyang@wandering.shop

                      @MsHearthWitch @afewbugs and the other thing about locks is that the quality and security of a lock often scales with weight. you can get a really good, fairly light lock, but it’s a tiny u-lock that leaves one wheel vulnerable and can make locking a tricky endeavor. or you can get a fuckoff big chain that secures both wheels but it adds ten pounds to your bike (which is funny because the more you spend on your bike, the lighter it gets and the heavier a lock you need to secure it).

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                      @jepyang @MsHearthWitch @afewbugs Someone quipped once that "the average weight of bike + lock is the same in NYC for all riders", it was just a question of whether is was an ancient steel bike with a cheap cable lock or a fancy super light carbon one with a heavy chain + U lock combo.

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                      • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                        Most commuters don’t trust bike storage at stations, putting them off cycling, new survey finds
                        https://road.cc/news/bike-storage-obstacles

                        "A poll of nearly 1,000 bike owners found that 72 percent of those surveyed found the problem of storing bikes out and about is deterring people from riding. Only 15 percent of participants had some degree of trust in bike storage at railway stations or similar transport hubs, with only three percent fully trusting the storage. In London, the figure was two percent."

                        #BikeTooter #ukBikeTooter

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                        @afewbugs thats what Brompton's are for, why leave it behind when you can fold it and tuck it next to you for the trip and then have the advantage at the other end too ...

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