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  3. The venn diagram of the "spare the rod and spoil the child" people and the "threatening to bomb a country into the stone age is good and moral foreign policy" people is a circle.

The venn diagram of the "spare the rod and spoil the child" people and the "threatening to bomb a country into the stone age is good and moral foreign policy" people is a circle.

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    @passenger @futurebird @waitworry
    I would argue that beaten children become adults that physically abuse others only if they have parents or guardians that approve and reward that behaviour when they are children.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      Beating your child is child abuse. But if that doesn't convince you not to do it for some reason (very strange that this wouldn't end the discussion... but OK) it's also NOT EFFECTIVE. It doesn't do what it claims. Other methods of enforcing boundaries are more effective.

      Beating your child won't keep them from getting pregnant as a teen or ending up in prison. It won't prove that you love them. It just shows you get angry and can not control that anger. It's bad parenting.

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      @futurebird we need to do more stopping the psychological and mental torment some parents inflict on their kids through verbal abuse too.

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        The venn diagram of the "spare the rod and spoil the child" people and the "threatening to bomb a country into the stone age is good and moral foreign policy" people is a circle.

        It's the same error in the nature of power, in the exercise of control. The same confusion between might and destructive chaos.

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        @futurebird wait this explains a lot about the political views of my dad ​​

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          Beating your child is child abuse. But if that doesn't convince you not to do it for some reason (very strange that this wouldn't end the discussion... but OK) it's also NOT EFFECTIVE. It doesn't do what it claims. Other methods of enforcing boundaries are more effective.

          Beating your child won't keep them from getting pregnant as a teen or ending up in prison. It won't prove that you love them. It just shows you get angry and can not control that anger. It's bad parenting.

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          @futurebird

          I remember you having a much more nuanced (but still principled) take on this, which I often used as an example of sound parenting (or child-caring) advice...

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