The Strait of Hormuz has been Iran’s ace in the hole for decades.
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@shoq The Trump admin has spent much more time obsessing about regime change in Europe and China (which is now official US policy, btw) than any other foreign issue.
Which region is the most sensitive to oil price shocks, having no substantial oil supply of its own? Europe.
The oil price surge was probably intended to bring down the the liberal EU order, as well as help Russia and put them in the drivers' seat in their partnership with China. Trump can force US domestic producers to keep prices here low in time for the midterms, while he and Putin extort Europe and China.
Hence the US military is more interested in stopping oil flow in the Strait than restoring it.
How, do you assert, will Trump be able to keep domestic oil prices low?
The US Strategic Oil Reserve is at 60%, not 100%.
In 2006 Bush tried to depress pump prices during high global cost by rigging the refiners cost of the crack (process to break a molecule of crude into more than its parts) from a steady $18-$22 per bbl to a peculiar $6. But it was not sustainable and made no difference politically.
What, specifically, do you believe Trump can do that others have failed at? I don't see it. Unless he nationalizes oil companies, or mandates fixed prices - neither seem tenable.
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The Strait of Hormuz has been Iran’s ace in the hole for decades. Trump’s fluffers didn’t understand that militaries don’t keep tankers afloat, insurance does. With thousands of drones, and only one hit needed for shipping to cease, it’s a cheap asymmetric war for Iran now.
@shoq Big slow moving ships are sitting ducks. It's why the US Navy knows it's suicide, martyrdom, or capture & parade if it goes in.
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The Strait of Hormuz has been Iran’s ace in the hole for decades. Trump’s fluffers didn’t understand that militaries don’t keep tankers afloat, insurance does. With thousands of drones, and only one hit needed for shipping to cease, it’s a cheap asymmetric war for Iran now.
Fossil Fuel Shakedowns & US foreign policy ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2026/03/12/russian-oil-sanctions-lifted-iran/
Trump's fossil fuel owners wanted a fast way to boost oil prices before Putin lost his war in Ukraine.
The fossil fuel industry is in an axis alliance against any nation acting on climate.
US easing of Russia oil sanctions faces pushback from other leaders
Leaders in Europe and Canada have pushed back against Washington's move to allow Russia to sell stranded oil.
(www.bbc.com)
How often are we supposed to tolerate market manipulation of oil commodities before a switch to solar & wind becomes mandatory?
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@shoq if only something could avoid this ... ah yes the green energy trump want to kill so bad.
he litterally destroyed the only thing that could soften the blow for us.
that show how dumb he is.
I would still preger to put a dog (animal) in his place the USA would be better directed.
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How, do you assert, will Trump be able to keep domestic oil prices low?
The US Strategic Oil Reserve is at 60%, not 100%.
In 2006 Bush tried to depress pump prices during high global cost by rigging the refiners cost of the crack (process to break a molecule of crude into more than its parts) from a steady $18-$22 per bbl to a peculiar $6. But it was not sustainable and made no difference politically.
What, specifically, do you believe Trump can do that others have failed at? I don't see it. Unless he nationalizes oil companies, or mandates fixed prices - neither seem tenable.
@pattykimura @tasket @shoq I'm just guessing, but maybe he could simply ask his friends running the companies to lower their prices temporary? They are already scratching each other`s backs; its not the most farfetched idea.
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The Strait of Hormuz has been Iran’s ace in the hole for decades. Trump’s fluffers didn’t understand that militaries don’t keep tankers afloat, insurance does. With thousands of drones, and only one hit needed for shipping to cease, it’s a cheap asymmetric war for Iran now.
The ultimate stupidity the Trump regime displays is mind-boggling..
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The Strait of Hormuz has been Iran’s ace in the hole for decades. Trump’s fluffers didn’t understand that militaries don’t keep tankers afloat, insurance does. With thousands of drones, and only one hit needed for shipping to cease, it’s a cheap asymmetric war for Iran now.
@shoq plenty of people in Trump's direct surrounding have one primary strategic objective: dismantle the United States, whether to replace it by their technofeudal network states or just to bring back Jesus. And then there's of course the insider trading on policy no disastrous nobody on Wall Street would predict it.
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@hszakher @shoq Who did this at the start of the war..?
Why air strikes on Tehran oil facilities are causing black rain
Air strikes have damaged at least four oil facilities since US-Israeli attacks on Iran began last month.
(www.bbc.com)
The dialogue here is proving far worse than I experienced on forums during the Iraq War. Very muddled thinking. Social media and a tidal wave of automatic entertainment has damaged people's faculties across the board; doesn't matter what side you think you're on.
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@pattykimura @tasket @shoq I'm just guessing, but maybe he could simply ask his friends running the companies to lower their prices temporary? They are already scratching each other`s backs; its not the most farfetched idea.
Not how public corporations work. That's how privately owned/family Saudi or Gulf State businesses typically operate, and lol, they are the targets of the successful Iranian asymmetrical retaliation. Iran has been planning for an attack by the US for 50 years.
If Trump was as powerful as you fantasize his buddies would have already dropped their prices. He's a bully, but he's rapidly losing his edge, his shtick is losing its power and threat, and his "buddies" have watched him double-cross his most loyal and pathetic acolytes who dutifully paid their tributes to the King. The risk of obeying used to be less than the risk of disobeying, things have shifted.
Oil companies are as calculating, greedy, and ruthless as Trump, and the risk calculations have changed even if Trump (and you) don't see it. Neither of them are motivated by care for their customers or citizens, it's all about profit, and this is cash in time for any oil producer/refiner not in a Gulf state even if it screws Trump and consumers. Which is a calculated risk that pays off "bigly" for Iran.
Greed is a double edged axe.
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@tasket @shoq it seem you don't know europe that much ?
because unlike US we have 3 powerfull green enegy supply, and massive oil reserve since 2008 economic shock.
also even the straigh closed mean only 2/3rd loss as there are pinepline that move 1/3rd of it.
Did you really thinked that the country arround iran did not have an emergency plan if this happened ?
I hope both of you are right. But a reasonable explanation for events is that this is being done now before its too late to preserve the dominance of the fossil fuel / extractive industries (obviously, other overlapping motivations are there as well, like burying the Epstein issue).
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Not how public corporations work. That's how privately owned/family Saudi or Gulf State businesses typically operate, and lol, they are the targets of the successful Iranian asymmetrical retaliation. Iran has been planning for an attack by the US for 50 years.
If Trump was as powerful as you fantasize his buddies would have already dropped their prices. He's a bully, but he's rapidly losing his edge, his shtick is losing its power and threat, and his "buddies" have watched him double-cross his most loyal and pathetic acolytes who dutifully paid their tributes to the King. The risk of obeying used to be less than the risk of disobeying, things have shifted.
Oil companies are as calculating, greedy, and ruthless as Trump, and the risk calculations have changed even if Trump (and you) don't see it. Neither of them are motivated by care for their customers or citizens, it's all about profit, and this is cash in time for any oil producer/refiner not in a Gulf state even if it screws Trump and consumers. Which is a calculated risk that pays off "bigly" for Iran.
Greed is a double edged axe.
@pattykimura No, its not all about profit. The greed in this case is bound up with nazi-fascist ideology; not recognizing that is a big mistake and robs civil society of the ability to anticipate their tactics.
Their next move will be to bring down the centrists in the EU, splintering it, and forming a white race axis from the pieces. Trumpists think that is what it will take to convince Russia to leave China's orbit.
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