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I don't get the hype about Age Verification on Linux

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  • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
    @unusnemo @foufoutos Tanks for the URL and tip.
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    @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

    By the way, systemd is an early adopter of this age verification, if you have not heard. If you use systemd in your own OS build be sure to vet their sources.

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    • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org

      about: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fac…

      the California age verification law for operating systems, including Linux, does not require users to provide ID or undergo any form of verification.

      The law, known as AB 1043, mandates that operating system providers collect age information during account setup, but it only requires self-reporting—users simply enter their date of birth or select an age bracket.
      There is no requirement for photo ID, facial recognition, or any other form of identity verification.
      As noted in multiple sources: as theregister.com/2026/03/13/opi…
      The system relies on user honesty, and users can lie about their age with no consequences.
      The collected data is intended to be used by apps to determine age-appropriate content, but the OS itself does not verify the information.

      Some Linux distributions are exploring minimal implementations (like a D-Bus interface or local config file) to comply without storing sensitive data.

      In short, it's a declaration-based system, not a verification system.

      @foufoutos

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      @foufoutos mhm,
      search engine AI
      Yes, building your own operating system is a viable — and increasingly relevant — way to maintain full control over your digital environment, especially as laws like California’s AB 1043 lay the groundwork for system-level user tracking.

      You can create a custom Linux-based OS tailored to your privacy, performance, and usability needs.

      Most approaches fall into two categories:
      1. Remix an Existing Distro (Recommended for most)

      Use tools like:

      Debian Live (live-build): Customize Ubuntu/Debian ISOs, add/remove packages, apply branding.
      Archiso: Build from Arch Linux, ideal for lightweight, rolling-release systems.
      SUSE Studio (web-based): Create custom openSUSE images with GUI tools.
      Cubic (Ubuntu-focused): GUI tool to modify Ubuntu ISOs easily.

      These let you strip out telemetry, enforce encryption, harden the kernel, and embed privacy tools (e.g., firewall rules, Tor, OpenSnitch) by default.


      this is the easy approach instead building from scratch.

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      • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org

        @foufoutos mhm,
        search engine AI
        Yes, building your own operating system is a viable — and increasingly relevant — way to maintain full control over your digital environment, especially as laws like California’s AB 1043 lay the groundwork for system-level user tracking.

        You can create a custom Linux-based OS tailored to your privacy, performance, and usability needs.

        Most approaches fall into two categories:
        1. Remix an Existing Distro (Recommended for most)

        Use tools like:

        Debian Live (live-build): Customize Ubuntu/Debian ISOs, add/remove packages, apply branding.
        Archiso: Build from Arch Linux, ideal for lightweight, rolling-release systems.
        SUSE Studio (web-based): Create custom openSUSE images with GUI tools.
        Cubic (Ubuntu-focused): GUI tool to modify Ubuntu ISOs easily.

        These let you strip out telemetry, enforce encryption, harden the kernel, and embed privacy tools (e.g., firewall rules, Tor, OpenSnitch) by default.


        this is the easy approach instead building from scratch.

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        @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

        Yes, but if you are starting with a corrupt base system that has age verification built in then you better know what you are doing to get rid of it. One way to learn how to do this is by experimenting and learning with Linux From Scratch. This way at least you will know where to look in the distro you are using as a base in order to sanitize it.

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        • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org

          about: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fac…

          the California age verification law for operating systems, including Linux, does not require users to provide ID or undergo any form of verification.

          The law, known as AB 1043, mandates that operating system providers collect age information during account setup, but it only requires self-reporting—users simply enter their date of birth or select an age bracket.
          There is no requirement for photo ID, facial recognition, or any other form of identity verification.
          As noted in multiple sources: as theregister.com/2026/03/13/opi…
          The system relies on user honesty, and users can lie about their age with no consequences.
          The collected data is intended to be used by apps to determine age-appropriate content, but the OS itself does not verify the information.

          Some Linux distributions are exploring minimal implementations (like a D-Bus interface or local config file) to comply without storing sensitive data.

          In short, it's a declaration-based system, not a verification system.

          @foufoutos

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          @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

          Keep in mind that moving forward some distros apps may require age signaling to work. So you would need to build your own packages anyway. This is probably not going to happen in the near future. Yet, that is what I would have said about OS age verification last year too ...

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          • unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

            @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

            Keep in mind that moving forward some distros apps may require age signaling to work. So you would need to build your own packages anyway. This is probably not going to happen in the near future. Yet, that is what I would have said about OS age verification last year too ...

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            @unusnemo @foufoutos No it's not gonna happen soon beyond that age verification but there are options at least for the savy. I'm learning about containers not making an OS image on my own so wish me good luck
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            • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
              @unusnemo @foufoutos No it's not gonna happen soon beyond that age verification but there are options at least for the savy. I'm learning about containers not making an OS image on my own so wish me good luck
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              @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

              You are in luck, because by default OCI containers are immutable. We add the persistence to them where needed. So you will have no issue with making it immutable as that is the default.

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              • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
                @unusnemo @foufoutos No it's not gonna happen soon beyond that age verification but there are options at least for the savy. I'm learning about containers not making an OS image on my own so wish me good luck
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                @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

                Keep in mind that a container is to protect your host from the container, not vice versa. If you host system is compromised then the container is compromised as well. No matter how well you make your container.

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                • unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.org

                  @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

                  Keep in mind that a container is to protect your host from the container, not vice versa. If you host system is compromised then the container is compromised as well. No matter how well you make your container.

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                  @unusnemo @foufoutos I know, I just want it this way as the one I use.. this law must be stopped!
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                  • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org

                    about: leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/fac…

                    the California age verification law for operating systems, including Linux, does not require users to provide ID or undergo any form of verification.

                    The law, known as AB 1043, mandates that operating system providers collect age information during account setup, but it only requires self-reporting—users simply enter their date of birth or select an age bracket.
                    There is no requirement for photo ID, facial recognition, or any other form of identity verification.
                    As noted in multiple sources: as theregister.com/2026/03/13/opi…
                    The system relies on user honesty, and users can lie about their age with no consequences.
                    The collected data is intended to be used by apps to determine age-appropriate content, but the OS itself does not verify the information.

                    Some Linux distributions are exploring minimal implementations (like a D-Bus interface or local config file) to comply without storing sensitive data.

                    In short, it's a declaration-based system, not a verification system.

                    @foufoutos

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                    @foufoutos Or kept in USA only not outside of it
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                    • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
                      @foufoutos Or kept in USA only not outside of it
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                      @zer0unplanned @foufoutos

                      Why should I care if the Nazis are killing the Jews? I am not Jewish.

                      Besides it effects you. As I stated above Fedora is funded by Red Hat, Red Hat is owned by IBM which is based in Colorado. Which means after 1-Jan-2027 Fedora will have to age verify. This will indirectly effect many that do not believe it effects them.

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                      • zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.orgZ zer0unplanned@friendica.rogueproject.org
                        @foufoutos Or kept in USA only not outside of it
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                        @foufoutos @zer0unplanned

                        #Australia has introduced age verification to socials.

                        You can bet, if there is some kind of #civilliberties shitfuckery about, it's a global initiative by #technonazis and/or our owners.

                        This "age verification" bullshit is purely about ending anonymity on the net.
                        Full surveillance with no court orders to #deidentify.

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                        • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                          @foufoutos @zer0unplanned

                          #Australia has introduced age verification to socials.

                          You can bet, if there is some kind of #civilliberties shitfuckery about, it's a global initiative by #technonazis and/or our owners.

                          This "age verification" bullshit is purely about ending anonymity on the net.
                          Full surveillance with no court orders to #deidentify.

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                          @n_dimension @foufoutos @zer0unplanned

                          This just reiterates what I have already stated earlier in this thread. So of course I agree.

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