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Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels

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  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
    petergleick@fediscience.orgP This user is from outside of this forum
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    Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
    Electrify everything.
    Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
    Tax oil companies dry.
    Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

    joelvanderwerf@mastodon.socialJ azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA dryak@mstdn.scienceD robert@people.unfoo.netR codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC 12 Replies Last reply
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    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

      Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
      Electrify everything.
      Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
      Tax oil companies dry.
      Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

      joelvanderwerf@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
      joelvanderwerf@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
      joelvanderwerf@mastodon.social
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      @petergleick I feel like we're in an Asimov story where Trump is remembered thousands of years hence for this one contribution to human progress.

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      • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

        Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
        Electrify everything.
        Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
        Tax oil companies dry.
        Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

        azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @petergleick I don't understand why more governments around the world don't see "our entire economy revolves around an expensive quantity in limited supply, primarily found in one of the most war-torn and politically unstable regions in the planet" as a serious national security risk.

        Like, forget all of the environmental concerns, if your country were utterly dependent on corn or steel or any other commodity only found in a region that was constantly at war causing random price spikes, you'd think you'd be making removal of that dependency a nationwide priority.

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        • joelvanderwerf@mastodon.socialJ joelvanderwerf@mastodon.social

          @petergleick I feel like we're in an Asimov story where Trump is remembered thousands of years hence for this one contribution to human progress.

          francoisprague@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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          @joelvanderwerf @petergleick

          Trump’s contribution to human progress: a very nice oxy-moron

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          • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

            Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
            Electrify everything.
            Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
            Tax oil companies dry.
            Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

            dryak@mstdn.scienceD This user is from outside of this forum
            dryak@mstdn.scienceD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @petergleick ...also: massively subsidize trains and other public transports, too.

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            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

              Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
              Electrify everything.
              Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
              Tax oil companies dry.
              Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

              robert@people.unfoo.netR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @petergleick it didn't happen 2022 when Russia invaded Ukraine so why should it be different this time.

              As an example: Germany just now abandoned legislation demanding carbon neutral heating in new buildings and actively tries to undermine the EU wide ban of new ICE vehicles starting 2035.
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              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                Electrify everything.
                Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                Tax oil companies dry.
                Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                codinghorror@infosec.exchangeC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @petergleick 💯

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                • francoisprague@mastodon.socialF francoisprague@mastodon.social

                  @joelvanderwerf @petergleick

                  Trump’s contribution to human progress: a very nice oxy-moron

                  rayotron@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @FrancoisPrague @joelvanderwerf @petergleick

                  Trump is oxymoronic? I thought he was C02 moronic.

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                  • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                    Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                    Electrify everything.
                    Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                    Tax oil companies dry.
                    Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                    petr90@mastodonczech.czP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @petergleick Nejbezpečnějšími a nejlevnějšími zdroji energie jsou Slunce, vítr a voda.
                    👍 👍 👍

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                    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                      Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                      Electrify everything.
                      Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                      Tax oil companies dry.
                      Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                      the_wub@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @petergleick 1/2 Perhaps in the middle of all of this we can not lose sight of the fact that, modern electric cars are, from a data privacy perspective an absolute disaster and incredibly invasive.

                      I do not want to give up my anonymous petrol-engined car that cannot leak any data and cannot be hacked remotely until I can buy an electric car that has these features.

                      Get rid of the iPads in the middle of dashboards. And the surveillance cameras festooned all over the cars.

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                      • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                        @petergleick I don't understand why more governments around the world don't see "our entire economy revolves around an expensive quantity in limited supply, primarily found in one of the most war-torn and politically unstable regions in the planet" as a serious national security risk.

                        Like, forget all of the environmental concerns, if your country were utterly dependent on corn or steel or any other commodity only found in a region that was constantly at war causing random price spikes, you'd think you'd be making removal of that dependency a nationwide priority.

                        mtnrbq65@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @azonenberg @petergleick

                        Sounds like a supply chain risk 😜

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                        • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                          Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                          Electrify everything.
                          Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                          Tax oil companies dry.
                          Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                          suenethercott@spore.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @petergleick and he's getting rid of a large stockpile of weapons. But not nuclear weapons, thank goodness. Not that way.

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                            @petergleick 1/2 Perhaps in the middle of all of this we can not lose sight of the fact that, modern electric cars are, from a data privacy perspective an absolute disaster and incredibly invasive.

                            I do not want to give up my anonymous petrol-engined car that cannot leak any data and cannot be hacked remotely until I can buy an electric car that has these features.

                            Get rid of the iPads in the middle of dashboards. And the surveillance cameras festooned all over the cars.

                            the_wub@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @petergleick 2/2 With open FOSS computer systems that are free of the control of surveillance capitalist billionaires.

                            Such that I can install LinuxMint Nissan Leaf Edition and rid myself of all financial dependencies on corporations who really do not need to fleece me or anyone else any more.

                            And rid myself of the inevitable enshittifiction that follows closed source walled garden digital ecosystems.

                            https://youtu.be/T4Upf_B9RLQ

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                            • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                              Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                              Electrify everything.
                              Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                              Tax oil companies dry.
                              Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

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                              @petergleick

                              That would indeed be at least some light at the end of this tunnel…

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                              • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                                Electrify everything.
                                Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                                Tax oil companies dry.
                                Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                                quite@mstdn.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @petergleick ...and stop producing electricity from fossil fuels and other non-renewables

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                                • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                  Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                                  Electrify everything.
                                  Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                                  Tax oil companies dry.
                                  Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                                  pettet8@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  • azonenberg@ioc.exchangeA azonenberg@ioc.exchange

                                    @petergleick I don't understand why more governments around the world don't see "our entire economy revolves around an expensive quantity in limited supply, primarily found in one of the most war-torn and politically unstable regions in the planet" as a serious national security risk.

                                    Like, forget all of the environmental concerns, if your country were utterly dependent on corn or steel or any other commodity only found in a region that was constantly at war causing random price spikes, you'd think you'd be making removal of that dependency a nationwide priority.

                                    witewulf@cyberplace.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @azonenberg @petergleick I guess it’s partly because many of the people in those governments have vast amounts of personal wealth coming from the companies that produce those commodities.

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                                    • petergleick@fediscience.orgP petergleick@fediscience.org

                                      Interesting to think that Donald Trump may have, completely inadvertently and at a horrific cost, finally woken up the world to how urgent it is we get off our dangerous addiction to fossil fuels.
                                      Electrify everything.
                                      Ban the production of gasoline-powered vehicles.
                                      Tax oil companies dry.
                                      Subsidize all renewables and EVs.

                                      sowa@fedi.sowi.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @petergleick@fediscience.org and don't forget, we should also #EatTheRich.

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