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Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

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  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

    Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

    And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

    I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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    @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt hugs tight ... yeah. mood. me too.

    and it feels like it has gotten really bad in the past what, two weeks? not that it was good before, but the speed at which this is accelerating is just 😕

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    • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

      @nina_kali_nina it's ridiculous how slop machines are spreading into everything. we really need a unified resistance against it, not just with programmers, but also with artists, writers, translators, etc

      usage of genai should be shamed

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      @lumi @nina_kali_nina
      May this be a time where the least UNIX-minded tech pundits you've ever seen rapidly pivot toward NetBSD, just for being the first OS to refuse slopmachine code.

      (I first heard of their policy through Gamers Nexus)
      (I'm just some yokel who likes KDE)
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      • domi@donotsta.reD domi@donotsta.re

        @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt hugs tight ... yeah. mood. me too.

        and it feels like it has gotten really bad in the past what, two weeks? not that it was good before, but the speed at which this is accelerating is just 😕

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        @domi apparently "models got real good since the release of Claude 4.5/4.6" or some other bs. Not that they did, but the PR depts are working tirelessly to make sure people are getting dependent on things that literally cost (hundreds of?) billions of dollars to run

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        • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

          @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt the only thing more I can think of is sending death threats, but that's not really great, innit.

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          @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina organized resistance against such projects, is what i'm thinking of

          death threats accomplish nothing

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          • moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM moses_izumi@fe.disroot.org
            @lumi @nina_kali_nina
            May this be a time where the least UNIX-minded tech pundits you've ever seen rapidly pivot toward NetBSD, just for being the first OS to refuse slopmachine code.

            (I first heard of their policy through Gamers Nexus)
            (I'm just some yokel who likes KDE)
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            @moses_izumi @lumi nod nod, I've tried *BSD recently after a long pause, maybe I should double down on it, too

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            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

              @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina organized resistance against such projects, is what i'm thinking of

              death threats accomplish nothing

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              @lumi @tragivictoria yep, boycott maybe can work (to an extent)

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              • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt the only thing more I can think of is sending death threats, but that's not really great, innit.

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                @tragivictoria @lumi yeah, let's not, please

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                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                  This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

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                  @nina_kali_nina it's been suggested I should start a custom distro which will then increasingly ‘lag behind’

                  if being ‘current’ means dealing with this nonsense, I'm fine with being behind, actually

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                  • zbrown@floss.socialZ zbrown@floss.social

                    @nina_kali_nina it's been suggested I should start a custom distro which will then increasingly ‘lag behind’

                    if being ‘current’ means dealing with this nonsense, I'm fine with being behind, actually

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                    @zbrown tbh maybe it's not a bad idea, but then maybe it makes more sense to focus on OSes that are explicitly anti-LLM, like NetBSD...

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                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                      This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

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                      @nina_kali_nina Refactoring, AI style 😞

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                      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        @domi apparently "models got real good since the release of Claude 4.5/4.6" or some other bs. Not that they did, but the PR depts are working tirelessly to make sure people are getting dependent on things that literally cost (hundreds of?) billions of dollars to run

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                        @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt genuinely struggling to process how do I continue from here. i'm usually scared, but this is... something else

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                        • domi@donotsta.reD domi@donotsta.re

                          @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt genuinely struggling to process how do I continue from here. i'm usually scared, but this is... something else

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                          @domi wanna come visit and talk about it?

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                          • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                            @zbrown tbh maybe it's not a bad idea, but then maybe it makes more sense to focus on OSes that are explicitly anti-LLM, like NetBSD...

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                            @nina_kali_nina right? like it was said to me in a ‘just be chill with AI’ context, but it's genuinely not a bad idea, we could fork g-b-m and have ‘GNOME OS’ build that just never updates harfbuzz or whatever else turns to slop

                            if only one had the resources to do it

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                            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                              @domi wanna come visit and talk about it?

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                              @domi actually let me message you in private lol

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                              • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

                                And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

                                I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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                                @nina_kali_nina I've been writing an OS (just for the hell of it), and now I'm worrying about the fact that it's written in Rust, just in case.

                                I don't think I could write a Rust compiler, but I could probably write a really bad C compiler.

                                (In fact, doesn't rust rely on LLVM, which is highlighted in your images? Fuck.)

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                                • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                  Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

                                  And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

                                  I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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                                  @nina_kali_nina I can't wait for MAFIAA to join forces with these GenAI providers to make it so that copyright legislation is bent enough to allow this kind of usage, but only if it involves a registered GenAI big-player or the like.

                                  *sigh* I'd say I may be getting too cynical except that in this case I'm quite sure this is how it will unfold, at least in the short term...

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                                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                    This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

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                                    @nina_kali_nina
                                    Wait a second. Isn't the output of GenAI supposed to be public domain?

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                                    • darkling@mstdn.socialD darkling@mstdn.social

                                      @nina_kali_nina I've been writing an OS (just for the hell of it), and now I'm worrying about the fact that it's written in Rust, just in case.

                                      I don't think I could write a Rust compiler, but I could probably write a really bad C compiler.

                                      (In fact, doesn't rust rely on LLVM, which is highlighted in your images? Fuck.)

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                                      @darkling correct, Rust relies on LLVM :<

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                                      • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                                        @nina_kali_nina
                                        Wait a second. Isn't the output of GenAI supposed to be public domain?

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                                        @kirtai well, maybe, but I'm afraid the courts in the US are going to be on the side of "big tech" if it ever goes to the court again. And even if it is accepted to be public domain, it isn't much better conceptually: the FOSS movement will be mostly destroyed by slop; if a slop machine can strip away the copyright, the copyright is unenforceable

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                                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                          Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

                                          And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

                                          I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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                                          @nina_kali_nina Hmmmm... At this point to avoid using vibecoded projects we might actually need to make my hypotheticals real!

                                          That's sad.

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