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Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

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  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

    Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

    And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

    I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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    This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

    lumi@snug.moeL mmu_man@m.g3l.orgM zbrown@floss.socialZ jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.netJ kirtai@tech.lgbtK 6 Replies Last reply
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    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

      This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

      lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      @nina_kali_nina that whole thing is so ridiculous

      you can't "clean room" reimplement a project with a slop machine trained on the project itself

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      • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

        Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

        And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

        I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

        aramya@types.plA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @nina_kali_nina i regret having ever liked computers

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        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

          Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

          And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

          I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

          tehstu@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #6

          @nina_kali_nina The rapid acceleration of so many projects seemingly "welp, what are you gonna do?" and accepting it just depresses me to my core.

          nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT izzy@social.shadowkat.netI 3 Replies Last reply
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          • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

            @nina_kali_nina The rapid acceleration of so many projects seemingly "welp, what are you gonna do?" and accepting it just depresses me to my core.

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            #7

            @tehstu same. Same.

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            • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

              Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

              And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

              I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

              tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt and that's why I think any lists of tainted software by LLMs are just not viable anymore. At this point every major project have it, making choices based on this is utterly impossible.

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              • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                @nina_kali_nina it's ridiculous how slop machines are spreading into everything. we really need a unified resistance against it, not just with programmers, but also with artists, writers, translators, etc

                usage of genai should be shamed

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                @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                usage of genai should be shamed

                I'm sorry, but that's talking as if there wasn't immediately an outrage whenever someone says they used LLM for something.

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                • tehstu@hachyderm.ioT tehstu@hachyderm.io

                  @nina_kali_nina The rapid acceleration of so many projects seemingly "welp, what are you gonna do?" and accepting it just depresses me to my core.

                  tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tehstu@hachyderm.io @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt well, because… what are you gonna do? In my case it's less accepting and more just giving up.

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                  • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                    This is prompted by the news of python's chardet being completely "rewritten" by GenAI to replace its original LGPL with MIT, by the way. It's free for all now, it seems.

                    mmu_man@m.g3l.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #11

                    @nina_kali_nina we'll soon look at AI-less projects the same way scientists look at pre nuclear test iron… 😒

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                    • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                      @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt and that's why I think any lists of tainted software by LLMs are just not viable anymore. At this point every major project have it, making choices based on this is utterly impossible.

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                      @tragivictoria yup :<

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                      • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                        @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                        usage of genai should be shamed

                        I'm sorry, but that's talking as if there wasn't immediately an outrage whenever someone says they used LLM for something.

                        lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina not enough outrage

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                        • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                          Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

                          And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

                          I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

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                          @nina_kali_nina

                          Apps I think aren't too bad as there will always be other projects that will spring up to fill a non ai gap.

                          Linux however is going to be harder to deal with

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                          • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                            @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                            usage of genai should be shamed

                            I'm sorry, but that's talking as if there wasn't immediately an outrage whenever someone says they used LLM for something.

                            nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @tragivictoria @lumi it depends on the social circle. There are lots and lots of people either celebrating the torment nexus or trusting the BBC's (or worse, the government's) coverage of it.

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                            • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                              @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina not enough outrage

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                              @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt the only thing more I can think of is sending death threats, but that's not really great, innit.

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                              • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt and that's why I think any lists of tainted software by LLMs are just not viable anymore. At this point every major project have it, making choices based on this is utterly impossible.

                                lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina it's going to be more effective to celebrate projects standing against it than making lists of slopware, imo

                                support projects that have a moral compass

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                                • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                  @tragivictoria @nina_kali_nina it's going to be more effective to celebrate projects standing against it than making lists of slopware, imo

                                  support projects that have a moral compass

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                                  @lumi@snug.moe @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt that's a nice idea

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                                  • tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                    @tehstu@hachyderm.io @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt well, because… what are you gonna do? In my case it's less accepting and more just giving up.

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                                    @tragivictoria @tehstu at the very least, you can say "fork it"

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                                    • nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbtN nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt

                                      Please excuse me while I'm having a little existential crisis, lol.

                                      And if that wasn't bad enough, Mozilla has embraced AI (in its code, too), while Linux considers relaxing AI code policy and has some examples of patches co-authored by LLMs.

                                      I am still yet to think hard about what I want to do about it. But the world I knew is no more.

                                      domi@donotsta.reD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt hugs tight ... yeah. mood. me too.

                                      and it feels like it has gotten really bad in the past what, two weeks? not that it was good before, but the speed at which this is accelerating is just 😕

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                                      • lumi@snug.moeL lumi@snug.moe

                                        @nina_kali_nina it's ridiculous how slop machines are spreading into everything. we really need a unified resistance against it, not just with programmers, but also with artists, writers, translators, etc

                                        usage of genai should be shamed

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                                        @lumi @nina_kali_nina
                                        May this be a time where the least UNIX-minded tech pundits you've ever seen rapidly pivot toward NetBSD, just for being the first OS to refuse slopmachine code.

                                        (I first heard of their policy through Gamers Nexus)
                                        (I'm just some yokel who likes KDE)
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                                        • domi@donotsta.reD domi@donotsta.re

                                          @nina_kali_nina@tech.lgbt hugs tight ... yeah. mood. me too.

                                          and it feels like it has gotten really bad in the past what, two weeks? not that it was good before, but the speed at which this is accelerating is just 😕

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                                          @domi apparently "models got real good since the release of Claude 4.5/4.6" or some other bs. Not that they did, but the PR depts are working tirelessly to make sure people are getting dependent on things that literally cost (hundreds of?) billions of dollars to run

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