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Report: "Backing Israel cost Democrats 2024 election, post-mortem reveals"

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  • draljones@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Report: "Backing Israel cost Democrats 2024 election, post-mortem reveals"

    Biden’s unwavering support for Israel’s genocide "cost critical support among younger & progressive voters."

    The DNC is still keeping the post-mortem results secret, refuelling accusations that leadership is suppressing the truth about the electoral impact of US Israel policy.

    Just a moment...

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    (www.middleeastmonitor.com)

    #GazaGenocide #USPol #DemsPostMortem #EUPol #CdnPoli #palestine #Racism #Colonialism #Press .

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    • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

      Report: "Backing Israel cost Democrats 2024 election, post-mortem reveals"

      Biden’s unwavering support for Israel’s genocide "cost critical support among younger & progressive voters."

      The DNC is still keeping the post-mortem results secret, refuelling accusations that leadership is suppressing the truth about the electoral impact of US Israel policy.

      Just a moment...

      favicon

      (www.middleeastmonitor.com)

      #GazaGenocide #USPol #DemsPostMortem #EUPol #CdnPoli #palestine #Racism #Colonialism #Press .

      mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @DrALJONES Democrats keep getting more blatant. Nowadays they're barely even trying to hide that they DGAF what us peons want.

      The real reason their action/inaction almost always belies their words isn't cowardice, or "getting fooled", or ineptitude (the excuses they've been using for decades). The real reason is they're every bit as much beholden to their billionaire patrons as the Republicans.

      The Dems' job is to give us false hope, so we don't take it into our own hands.

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      • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

        @DrALJONES Democrats keep getting more blatant. Nowadays they're barely even trying to hide that they DGAF what us peons want.

        The real reason their action/inaction almost always belies their words isn't cowardice, or "getting fooled", or ineptitude (the excuses they've been using for decades). The real reason is they're every bit as much beholden to their billionaire patrons as the Republicans.

        The Dems' job is to give us false hope, so we don't take it into our own hands.

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        @MySideIsHumanity

        Very very well put 👏👏👏

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        • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

          @DrALJONES Democrats keep getting more blatant. Nowadays they're barely even trying to hide that they DGAF what us peons want.

          The real reason their action/inaction almost always belies their words isn't cowardice, or "getting fooled", or ineptitude (the excuses they've been using for decades). The real reason is they're every bit as much beholden to their billionaire patrons as the Republicans.

          The Dems' job is to give us false hope, so we don't take it into our own hands.

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          gustodon@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @MySideIsHumanity There is no third party. All you're doing is telling people not to vote.

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          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

            Report: "Backing Israel cost Democrats 2024 election, post-mortem reveals"

            Biden’s unwavering support for Israel’s genocide "cost critical support among younger & progressive voters."

            The DNC is still keeping the post-mortem results secret, refuelling accusations that leadership is suppressing the truth about the electoral impact of US Israel policy.

            Just a moment...

            favicon

            (www.middleeastmonitor.com)

            #GazaGenocide #USPol #DemsPostMortem #EUPol #CdnPoli #palestine #Racism #Colonialism #Press .

            anniebuddy@mstdn.caA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @DrALJONES

            Backing them because of blackmail. There’s no other explanation

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            • anniebuddy@mstdn.caA anniebuddy@mstdn.ca

              @DrALJONES

              Backing them because of blackmail. There’s no other explanation

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              @AnnieBuddy

              There are several plausible alternative explanations - expand your mind, Annie 🙂

              PS blackmail, of course, is one, but by no means the only one. These things are rarely one dimensional

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              • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                @AnnieBuddy

                There are several plausible alternative explanations - expand your mind, Annie 🙂

                PS blackmail, of course, is one, but by no means the only one. These things are rarely one dimensional

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                @DrALJONES

                How about elaborating on those other explanations?

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                • anniebuddy@mstdn.caA anniebuddy@mstdn.ca

                  @DrALJONES

                  How about elaborating on those other explanations?

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                  @AnnieBuddy

                  Well, I was hoping you'd have a go first 🙂

                  Why did US congress members back the Zionist (later, Israeli) cause from the start (since early 1900s)?

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                  • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                    @MySideIsHumanity There is no third party. All you're doing is telling people not to vote.

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                    @Gustodon The Greens, among others. Or do you mean “no third party who the billionaire-owned media tell me is ‘realistic’, I.e billionaire-approved”?

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                    • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

                      @Gustodon The Greens, among others. Or do you mean “no third party who the billionaire-owned media tell me is ‘realistic’, I.e billionaire-approved”?

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                      @MySideIsHumanity American politics is about entrenched forces within government. It's an ugly, broken system, but it's what's happening. The Democrats and the Republicans have succeeded as political parties because they have that infrastructure, the built-in, on-the-aisle tools to make things happen. You want a Green candidate? Elect the Democrat with the tools and the ideas to make it happen within a broader political spectrum, one that Republicans will never allow.

                      Also, Donald. WTF?

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                      • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                        @AnnieBuddy

                        Well, I was hoping you'd have a go first 🙂

                        Why did US congress members back the Zionist (later, Israeli) cause from the start (since early 1900s)?

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                        @DrALJONES

                        This is an area of history that I am completely ignorant of, I have to admit. My education on Israel only covered WWII and the aftermath. Whenever I have asked questions, in order to inform myself on Palestine, I've been labelled antisemitic.

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                        • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                          @MySideIsHumanity American politics is about entrenched forces within government. It's an ugly, broken system, but it's what's happening. The Democrats and the Republicans have succeeded as political parties because they have that infrastructure, the built-in, on-the-aisle tools to make things happen. You want a Green candidate? Elect the Democrat with the tools and the ideas to make it happen within a broader political spectrum, one that Republicans will never allow.

                          Also, Donald. WTF?

                          mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Gustodon The independents (people who don't align with either party) already outnumber the people who say they align with Reps or Dems. Not to mention people who only choose Rep/Dem because they think they have to.

                          The only reason this horror show continues, is that the 99% keep listening to billionaire-owned media who tell them nothing else is possible. And keep telling them to hate/blame each other for the horrors being perpetrated on ALL of the 99% by the robber barons.

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                          • draljones@mastodon.socialD draljones@mastodon.social

                            @MySideIsHumanity

                            Very very well put 👏👏👏

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                            @DrALJONES Thank you much. After decades of watching them make the same excuses over and over, I'm sick to death of Democrats putting on a less convincing act of trying to "fight for us"… than a WWE 'wrestler'. 😅

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                            • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

                              @Gustodon The independents (people who don't align with either party) already outnumber the people who say they align with Reps or Dems. Not to mention people who only choose Rep/Dem because they think they have to.

                              The only reason this horror show continues, is that the 99% keep listening to billionaire-owned media who tell them nothing else is possible. And keep telling them to hate/blame each other for the horrors being perpetrated on ALL of the 99% by the robber barons.

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                              @MySideIsHumanity It was a crisis election.

                              There was exactly one right thing to do.

                              The rest is lazy voters and selfish perfectionists.

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                              • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                                @MySideIsHumanity It was a crisis election.

                                There was exactly one right thing to do.

                                The rest is lazy voters and selfish perfectionists.

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                                @Gustodon It's ALWAYS a 'crisis'. It's always 'not the right time' to demand better, but even when they win control of all three branches Democrats refuse to undo the damage. I've been watching this for decades.

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                                • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

                                  @DrALJONES Thank you much. After decades of watching them make the same excuses over and over, I'm sick to death of Democrats putting on a less convincing act of trying to "fight for us"… than a WWE 'wrestler'. 😅

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                                  @DrALJONES Or perhaps more aptly, less convincing than Lucy 'holding the football' for Charlie Brown. 😉

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                                    @Su_G @DrALJONES Thank you; I wish I knew who to credit.

                                    I'm pretty fond of the Peanuts and WWE analogies I posted in response to @DrALJONES as well… I hope they'll strike a chord? Or at least, be darkly amusing. 🤝

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                                    • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

                                      @Gustodon It's ALWAYS a 'crisis'. It's always 'not the right time' to demand better, but even when they win control of all three branches Democrats refuse to undo the damage. I've been watching this for decades.

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                                      @MySideIsHumanity You're a Republican's dream voter, or non-voter, as the case may be.

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                                      • gustodon@mas.toG gustodon@mas.to

                                        @MySideIsHumanity You're a Republican's dream voter, or non-voter, as the case may be.

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                                        @Gustodon Sad how it always comes back to this… people (both Red and Blue) who regularly drink the billionaire-owned media cults' Good-Us-Versus-Evil-Them koolaid,
                                        1) will never stop making excuses for horrible things their Good Us do as an Unfortunate Necessity,
                                        2) are brainwashed into believing Evil Thems in the 99% are the Real Power running this horror show, and
                                        3) when cornered and out of logical arguments, they accuse anyone who won't pledge allegiance to the Good Us of being an Evil Them.

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                                        • mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloudM mysideishumanity@mastodon.cloud

                                          @Gustodon Sad how it always comes back to this… people (both Red and Blue) who regularly drink the billionaire-owned media cults' Good-Us-Versus-Evil-Them koolaid,
                                          1) will never stop making excuses for horrible things their Good Us do as an Unfortunate Necessity,
                                          2) are brainwashed into believing Evil Thems in the 99% are the Real Power running this horror show, and
                                          3) when cornered and out of logical arguments, they accuse anyone who won't pledge allegiance to the Good Us of being an Evil Them.

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                                          @MySideIsHumanity Answer one question honestly:

                                          Would Kamala Harris be a worse president?

                                          You had a chance to do something good (vote to elect a Black woman president) but you chose to do something bad (abstain and make academic criticisms about the results of an election you didn't participate in.) I don't know if that makes you evil, but you're definitely responsible for evil acts.

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